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** HOW TO COPY CURRENT TUNE FILES FROM TOOL/VEHICLE **

Predator support for GM gas vehicles

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SECTION 1 is for U7194 rev. 9r07 or less, and U7191 rev. 9r03 or less.

SECTION 2 is for the new U7194 rev. 9r08 or higher, for the Trinity, and for 7192, 7193, 7198's on new 9rXX revisions.

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So, you want/need a custom tune for your vehicle?? And your tuner asks you to send them your tune file from your vehicle but you're not sure how??

Well, here's what you do:

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SECTION 1:

FOR U7194 rev. 9R07 OR LESS - AND - U7191 rev. 9R03 OR LESS



To get a copy of the current diablo tune (the "extra tune") out of your vehicle:

1. With your predator hooked up to your vehicle's OBDII port, and the car key is turned into the same ON position as if you were going to install a tune, go to OPTIONS > CUSTOM TUNE > READ EXTRA TUNE. -- This will copy the diablo preset tune from the car into the predator. -- You MUST do this step before you will be able to export the extra tune from the Predator to your PC!

Once that copy process is done, press the ESC button until you are back at the main menu, and then you can unplug your predator from the OBD port.

2. Make sure you have installed the GMLS2InterfaceInstaller app on your PC.

3. then hook up your predator to your PC

4. then after the predator boots up, go to OPTIONS > CUSTOM TUNE > EXPORT TUNE > EXTRA TUNE -- the predator will start the transfer process of copying the tune file to your PC, and will pause at 5%

5. start up the GMLS2InterfaceInstaller app (the E40 Interface app)

6. click the GET FILE button - it will give you a popup window to select where to save the file, and the option to change the filename. Enter that info and click OK. then it will tell you to start the xmodem transfer process before clicking ok - we already did that with the predator - so just click OK.

7. the copy process will begin and it will copy the tune to your PC to the location you selected. When it's done, it will give you a popup saying Download Completed OK.

8. Then, email that extra tune file to your tuner.

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To get the copy of your original backup tune file out of the predator:

1. hook up your predator to your PC

2. then after the predator boots up, go to OPTIONS > CUSTOM TUNE > EXPORT TUNE > ORIGINAL BACKUP -- the predator will start the transfer process of copying the tune file to your PC, and will pause at 5%

3. start up the GMLS2InterfaceInstaller app (the E40 Interface app)

4. click the GET FILE button - it will give you a popup window to select where to save the file, and the option to change the filename. Enter that info and click OK. then it will tell you to start the xmodem transfer process before clicking ok - we already did that with the predator - so just click OK.

5. the copy process will begin and it will copy the tune to your PC to the location you selected. When it's done, it will give you a popup saying Download Completed OK.

6. Then, email that original backup tune file to your tuner as well.

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The tuner will make the custom tune for you, and then email the custom tune file back to you.

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Now - After they email you back with your new custom tune, you'll need to load that custom tune into your predator, so...


Importing a custom tune into the Predator:

1. hook up your predator to your PC

2. go to OPTIONS > CUSTOM TUNE > IMPORT TUNE -- the predator will start the transfer process of copying the custom tune from your PC to the predator, and will show "Importing from PC" on the screen.

3. start up the GMLS2InterfaceInstaller app (the E40 Interface app)

4. click the SEND FILE button - it will give you a popup window to select the tune file to import.

5. select that custom tune file that your tuner sent you back and click OK.

6. the copy process will begin and it will copy the custom tune from your PC to your Predator. You will see the byte count increasing in the lower left side of the E40 PC Interface app...

7. once it's done, it will say download complete / file transfer complete - and the Predator screen will show/flash "import OK".

8. You may now unhook the Predator and go to the vehicle to install the custom tune.

READ "** IMPORTANT NOTE" AT BOTTOM BEFORE INSTALLING TUNE TO YOUR VEHICLE!



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SECTION 2:

FOR U7194 rev. 9R08 OR HIGHER - AND - TRINITY - AND - 7192, 7193, 7198 on new 9rXX revisions



Saving the original backup tune and current tune (Last Tune Written) to your PC:

1. Make sure you have installed the latest version (2.2.2.5) of the DSDownloader app on your PC.

2. Connect your Predator/Trinity to your PC and power it up, and then run the DSDownloader program.

3. Once you open DSDownloader, click "Options" and make sure there is a check mark next to "Auto Connect".

4. Once Auto Connect is enabled, the DSDL will search for and find your Predator/Trinity on its assigned COM port.

5. Once it finds your Predator/Trinity, you will be taken to the Express Tune page. From the Express Tune page, click "Get tune file from Tool".

6. The DSDownloader will then popup a new window with two choices - Original Backup and Last Tune Written. Click on ORIGINAL BACKUP once to select/highlight it, and then click OK to save it to a location of your choosing on your PC.

7. Your "Original Backup" tune file is now saved to your PC.

8. Now, Repeat the steps above in order to export a copy of the "Last Tune Written" - because the tuner creating your custom tune for you will need BOTH files. This "last tune written" tune file is a copy of the current diablo tune you have installed in your vehicle. So, from back at the Express Tune page in the DSDownloader, click "Get tune file from Tool".

9. The DSDownloader will then popup a new window with two choices - Original Backup and Last Tune Written. This time, click on LAST TUNE WRITTEN once to select/highlight it, and then click OK to save it to a location of your choosing on your PC.

10. Now your "Last Tune Written" tune file is also saved to your PC.

11. Email BOTH of those tune files to your tuner.

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The tuner will make the custom tune for you, and then email the custom tune file back to you.

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Now - After they email you back with your new custom tune file attached, you'll need to save that custom tune file to your PC and load that custom tune into your Predator/Trinity, so...


Importing a custom tune into the Predator/Trinity:

1. Connect the Predator/Trinity to your PC and power it up... Then open up the DSDownloader.

2. Let the DSDownloader auto connect to the tool.

3. On the DSDownloader - go to the Express Tune tab and click "Send Tune File to Tool".

4. You will get a new window asking you to select the custom tune file for importing.

5. So, Browse through your PC to find where you saved the new custom tune file, and click it once to highlight it, then click "open".

6. You will then get a new window asking you to select your original backup stock tune file - so select Browse for original backup... then, browse your folders or desktop to look for the copy of your "original backup" stock tune file you saved to your PC before, and click it once to highlight it - then click "open".


7. The DSDownloader will automatically compare these files to determine if they are the same size and of the same calibration.

8. Once it determines the files are OK, it will import the custom tune file to the Predator/Trinity. This will all happen very fast, usually in under 10 seconds.

9. The DSDownloader will tell you that the import/download was successful, and the Predator/Trinity screen will show/flash "import OK". (this occurs quickly on the Predator/Trinity screen, so you may not see the message.)

10. You may now unhook the Predator/Trinity and go to the vehicle to install the custom tune.

READ "** IMPORTANT NOTE" AT BOTTOM BEFORE INSTALLING TUNE TO YOUR VEHICLE!


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** IMPORTANT NOTE: your Predator/Trinity may prompt you to say that you are changing tunes, and then ask you if you want to "Reset All Parameters?" - when it asks you this, make sure you answer/select YES to this question to reset the parameters that you adjusted before. The changes you made yourself before are already in the custom tune (or have been corrected), since you copied it out of your vehicle ("last tune written) to send to the tuner. If you select NO, then it will apply your previous adjustments on top of the adjustments that are already in the custom tune, and it will get very ugly. So, if/when it asks you to "Reset all parameters?" - make SURE that you answer/select YES!

Do the install just like any other performance tune, and you're good to go with your new custom tune.
Last edited by 06MonteSS on Sat Apr 02, 2011 2:50 pm, edited 46 times in total.
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Lew strikes again with good information :)


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haha... thanks Canuck... yeah, after getting email after email after PM after PM... figured I might as well write it up and can just link people to here... that way I don't have to keep typing it out all the time... :lol:
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Nice write up again Lew..
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So Lew, you're gonna want to kill John when he finalizes the new DSDL update, and adds in support for the U7191/U7194 tools.
Gonna need a whole new write-up, lol.
Thats right...no more LS2 PCinterface!!
Mike Litsch
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eh, if he's the one that's also workin' on the tranny support, then this sticky will be applicable for years to come... :lol: :lol: :lol:

ZING!!
Last edited by 06MonteSS on Thu Mar 20, 2008 8:40 pm, edited 1 time in total.
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ROFL....
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my predator should be here tomorrow.

Post Wed Jun 04, 2008 8:36 pm

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You really have a thorough way of explaining things so people understand what to do in the right order.

8)

Props to Lew.

If your ever near Pocono or come to Manhattan beers on me........

Post Thu Jun 05, 2008 9:00 am

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Thanks man!! ;)

and let me know if you're ever in CT... we'll meet up...
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06MonteSS wrote:
eh, if he's the one that's also workin' on the tranny support, then this sticky will be applicable for years to come... :lol: :lol: :lol:

ZING!!


MUAAAHAHAHAH!! That's my boy!!!! Don't give 'em a minute to breathe Lew!!!

Yeah, at this point I'm pretty sure we're going to see images of Flying Cars and Rocket Packs on the main diablosport.com page indicating "FIRST TO MARKET, U98393 for the NEW 2035 GM GAZELLE FLYINGMOBILE!!" before we get that F$$KING UPDATE we were promised FOR NEARLY TWO YEARS.

"FIRST TO MARKET!! With the price of Dylithium Crystals going through the stratosphere, get the most out of your GM "Gandalf II" Time Machine with the new DiabloSport U310934!!" Still working on that U7191 TCM support, 3 weeks away, but why wait around? Use your DS "tuned to raise hell" Time Machine to visit 2047 and get your U7191 TCM update RIGHT NOW!!" :roll: :lol: :twisted: :?:


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mikel wrote:
So Lew, you're gonna want to kill John when he finalizes the new DSDL update, and adds in support for the U7191/U7194 tools.
Gonna need a whole new write-up, lol.
Thats right...no more LS2 PCinterface!!


even though that's done, I am still coming across people having problems/errors with that new method...

but the ol' tried-n-true method of mine is still workin' strong!!

;)
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Post Mon Dec 22, 2008 8:46 pm

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I just tried to do this so I can get a custom tune for my 2002 z/28 however, when i went to the options/custom tune menu with ingition set to first click there was no read extra tune option, only erase custom tune or import tune. I reinstalled the predator performance tune so that was the last file written to my U7198 version v.9r03 advice??

Post Thu Jul 30, 2009 1:50 pm

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Hey

I have a 2001 Camaro Z28 and the same problem how 808Z28.... Any idea? I use U198x with the 9r14 Software.
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Post Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:09 pm

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you need to follow these instructions from your 7198 download support page:

http://diablosport.com/downloads/predat ... ctions.doc
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