3.6 Challenger Tuner

[TexasSXT]

Any updates on the release of the 3.6L Challenger tuner?? I was amazed that the Jeep tuner came out 1st. Still trying to wrap my head around that one. I know the Challenger 3.6 owners let alone the Charger/300 crowd would love to line DS's pockets with $$ if you would only release it.

[mikel]

You might not believe how many Jeep tuners we sell, but if you think about it, the % of jeep owners who modify their Wranglers vs the % of LX V6 owners who modify, well, the Jeep wins, big time

The LX stuff will happen. There are quite a few variations of vehicles with that engine, and the cars will require LOTs of work on templates, tune development, and more. The Jeep had 2 calibrations available and was much easier to develop on first.

Thanks

[TexasSXT]

You might not believe how many Jeep tuners we sell, but if you think about it, the % of jeep owners who modify their Wranglers vs the % of LX V6 owners who modify, well, the Jeep wins, big time

The LX stuff will happen. There are quite a few variations of vehicles with that engine, and the cars will require LOTs of work on templates, tune development, and more. The Jeep had 2 calibrations available and was much easier to develop on first.

Thanks

Thanks for the reply. I know that there are TONS of Jeeps sold (like them myself!) just never saw any at the track! We appreciate all that ya'll do and are just anxious to reap the rewards too.

[Mike_Levy]

I've never seen any V6 LXs at the track. They're normally bought by women who daily drive them. The ones at the track are Hemi powered. I've taken a Jeep to the track though (and roasted every LX there, no matter what they were powered by).

Tuners are very useful off road as well, thats what the Jeep guys generally buy them for. They don't care about the power gains, its the other options they're more concerned about.

[TexasSXT]

I've never seen any V6 LXs at the track. They're normally bought by women who daily drive them. The ones at the track are Hemi powered. I've taken a Jeep to the track though (and roasted every LX there, no matter what they were powered by).

Tuners are very useful off road as well, thats what the Jeep guys generally buy them for. They don't care about the power gains, its the other options they're more concerned about.

Ummm... Yea... Don't go to the track much eh??

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Feg69_9S ... ata_player

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8UQNDqJ73uY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pUMlG6Fl2Yo

[mlcoulter]

Ooooopppss... Did someone leave the oven on??? Sumthin' just got burned....

[Mike_Levy]

Apparently you don't either. Wanna play the You Tube game, I'll play.

http://youtu.be/WuCXYuFZWgc
http://youtu.be/YMFUwnG8VKc
http://youtu.be/QXY_RibGSEg

[TexasSXT]

Apparently you don't either. Wanna play the You Tube game, I'll play.

http://youtu.be/WuCXYuFZWgc
http://youtu.be/YMFUwnG8VKc
http://youtu.be/QXY_RibGSEg

Thanks! I enjoy watching "run what you brung" track vids. I agree with you 100% that SRT8 Jeeps are damn quick, or for that matter CJ's that have sweet running V8's too. What you seemed to have missed is that this thread was posted about Dodge V-6 tuners. All the vids you posted are for V8 Jeep products which the point of focus of my comments were NOT about. I was happy to provide you with links to show you V6 Challengers at the track so as to "enlighten" your view since it was a new concept for you. My comment was also about my surprise that Jeep V6's got tuned before Charger/Challenger/300 V6 cars were. I was simply voicing how anxious the V6 crowd on the Challenger forums are to be able to tune our vehicles and reap the benefits of DiabloSports hard work. I bought a V6 because I wanted a V6. I have had plenty of V8's over the years and have a Hemi powered Desoto in the garage. So troll me some more if it makes you feel better.

[Mike_Levy]

You said "I know that there are TONS of Jeeps sold (like them myself!) just never saw any at the track!", so I showed you some at the track. Never said anything about V6 Jeeps.

[ltwhite]

In support of the Challenger V6, let me tell you that a Challenger or Charger with Pentastar 3.6 VVT, CAI, exhaust, and tune (once it is out) takes you from 300HP to about 350 HP and with the lightweight aluminum block (instead of front heavy iron v8) actually handles like few American rear wheel drive sports sedans in the 25k price range ever have (I keep up with M5s out on the turnpike).

Buy a black one or gray with black wheels and I guarantee you will never be mistaken for a woman driving a little red mustang or honda or whatever. No need to put down our fellow auto enthusiasts.

[maine54]

Mike, you female daily driver comment reeked of immaturity and ignorance. You have alot of knowledge, I'll give you that, yet you eclipse said knowledge with immense arrogance and alpha-male esque psycho babble. Do you know how large the market is for a 3.6 Pentastar tuner for the LX/LC models is? Doubtful, and believe my money is where my mouth is due to the fact I have over 17k in my 2012 Chally that awaits a tune. One of the few daily driven 11 second Challenges in America is a LX V6? So what is your point. I personally was sold on the fact that the V6's had oil jets to cool the cylinders, something the Hemis lacked, and like SXT said, I too have own V8's and also a turbo-4 Audi, so again I ask what's your point? Nothing against Diablo, but when is it a companies right, in which whose capital comes from the development of a product yet biased of what and when they put (something) out with there liability being time? I noticed this when they assumed and stated that more people would purchase/upgrade the 5.7/6.4's thus being why they researched and release that tuned first with disregard to the other trims....assumptions. Mike, if you are going to freelance about on here then drop the bias, be a real, help gear head, leave the arrogance away from the vicinity of your keyboard. No one is here to argue with, or be belittled by a man-child.

[Mike_Levy]

See you guys haven't been here, so you don't know me. I'm known as an asshole. I call things the way I see them. Don't take it to heart. To me, the V6 versions of all the ponycars are girls cars. I know I wouldn't touch one with a 20 foot pole, and neither would most of the guys I hang out with and talk to. To us, if it doesn't have at least 400hp, we won't even consider it. And for me, even 400 doesn't cut it anymore. Driving the 403hp Yukon for the past 4 months, it feels like an underpowered slug. 500 is my new minimum.

[smackdownsrt]

When I had my Jeep SRT8 for 3 years, and the 1+ year I've had the V, I went to the track a lot; Englishtown, Atco, Cecil. Pretty much the Big 3 of race tracks. I've hardly, if ever, saw a LX or LC V6 go down the track. Even sold a few 3.5/2.7 parts to you guys, but none ever came back with track results. Everytime I've gone to the track, I'd always see SRT8's, even a few 5.7 R/T's. Probably why Diablo caters to those people. They are more likely to upgrade and even tune than V6 guys. Just like Mike(l) said, tuning the Jeep was easier and they are more likely to tune. It's business, not personal.

Right now, I'm pushing a 650 HP V from 550 HP stock. I can't imagine driving 300 HP. Last time was the GTP, and you can image how long ago that was considering Pontiac is gone. Same reason why I traded in my 425 HP Jeep, just couldn't do it. I was getting bored of mid 12s. The V was low 12s stock. And compliments of the Diablosport canned tune, got it to break 11s, mid 11s. Now I'm even considering trading in the V in for a car that can do low 11s, maybe break 10s since I have the Big 3 race tracks in my backyard.

Maybe in the distant future, after I'm done with 10s, I'll settle down for a 200-300 HP car. But I won't be bitching to Diablosport about making a tune for it.

[cq842000]

When I had my Jeep SRT8 for 3 years, and the 1+ year I've had the V, I went to the track a lot; Englishtown, Atco, Cecil. Pretty much the Big 3 of race tracks. I've hardly, if ever, saw a LX or LC V6 go down the track. Even sold a few 3.5/2.7 parts to you guys, but none ever came back with track results. Everytime I've gone to the track, I'd always see SRT8's, even a few 5.7 R/T's. Probably why Diablo caters to those people. They are more likely to upgrade and even tune than V6 guys. Just like Mike(l) said, tuning the Jeep was easier and they are more likely to tune. It's business, not personal.

Right now, I'm pushing a 650 HP V from 550 HP stock. I can't imagine driving 300 HP. Last time was the GTP, and you can image how long ago that was considering Pontiac is gone. Same reason why I traded in my 425 HP Jeep, just couldn't do it. I was getting bored of mid 12s. The V was low 12s stock. And compliments of the Diablosport canned tune, got it to break 11s, mid 11s. Now I'm even considering trading in the V in for a car that can do low 11s, maybe break 10s since I have the Big 3 race tracks in my backyard.

Maybe in the distant future, after I'm done with 10s, I'll settle down for a 200-300 HP car. But I won't be bitching to Diablosport about making a tune for it.

All due respect, it is so easy for you to say seeing as how all your rides could be tuned. What I see as clear and stupid-proof demand, you see as bitching...fair enough to each their own, but just consider that maybe you aren't the only person that wants to make their car go faster or operate more efficiently. Us V6 owners pay for our cars the same way you do. I've been to the track a few times already and every time I went (Pine Valley Raceway/ Lufkin,TX) there were at least four other V6 LX/LC/LD vehicles there besides myself. When the 3.6l can be tuned and forced induction becomes available, there will be a rude awakening. There is a reason Dodge made it so difficult to tune these cars.

[smackdownsrt]

Yeah, and the SRT8 was in it's 3rd year, same with the V. So they had time. You buy the FMY, you wait. The 6.4 SRT8 guys got impatient, bitched, and look what happened. An Intune that's $450 vs $390. Keep it up and you'll be paying the same!