Cam advance/retard tuning 5.7l hemi

[Aaron Metcalf]

I have a 2019 charger 5.7l hemi. I put in a comp cam stage 2 and a cam phaser limiter. So the cam should not be able to physically retard past the maximum 14 degrees I need it limited to, but I still need to tune the PMC so it doesn’t try to retard past that 14 degrees.
I have an Diablo sport intune i3 tuner and I’m the settings it has a menu in advanced tuning that says this:

Spark Adjustment

WOT Spark 1k-3.8k:
Allows user to adjust timing +/-10 degrees in the 1000-3800 rpm range
WOT Spark 4k-4.8k:
Allows user to adjust timing +/-10 degrees in the 4000-4800 rpm range
WOT Spark 5k-7k:
Allows user to adjust timing +/-10 degrees in the 5000-7000 rpm range
To properly dial in your timing using the Predator you need to log or monitor the following live data parameters.
Spark, this is your actual timing (in degrees) at any given time.
Knock Retard, this the amount of timing removed (in degrees) due to knock (detonation/ping). The knock sensors can in rare cases pick up other harsh engine noises as well, if this is the case it is recommended to fix the cause of the noise before proceeding.
You basically always want the knock retard to read zero under wide open throttle conditions, it is normal for it to show some KR when stomping on the throttle and also during the shift.
Monitor the spark and the knock retard pids under wide open throttle and see if you have any knock retard, anything higher than 1 should be adjusted in the respective timing range in the Predator , if the knock is severe, 5 deg plus, try lowering spark by 10%, if less than 5 deg, try 5%. Make another wide open pass and monitor the same pids and basically keep doing this until you seen no knock retard.
NOTE: The use of respective grade fuel should be used with tune choice.
91 octane tune will run on 87,89 and 91 octane. The 93 octane (Performance) tune will run on 91 and 93 octane. If severe knock cannot be remedied by adjusting the parameters for it, try to install the factory tune and monitor the knock using it. If knock still is present consider switching fuel brand.
DiabloSport recommends using fuels from the following vendors:


So I am trying to figure out if adjusting the spark is the same as advancing/retarding the cam. If it is am I able to limit the retard to a maximum of 14 degrees or so I need to have a company create a customs tune for me.
Thanks guys

Cam specs:
Dur @ .050": 220/230 | Lift: .596"/.582" | LSA: 114
stage 2 grind. Best average torque and power of any sub .600" lift camshaft tested. Runs great from 2500-6500 RPM. 1900-7000 RPM operating range.
Note: ECU Tuning required.

[06MonteSS]

No it is not the same thing... and no you can't adjust the cam settings at all with the programmer... you'd need to find a Dodge custom tuner and get a custom tune done...

[Aaron Metcalf]

@06Montess
Thank you for the response. Appreciate your time.