89 to 93 tune

[antone302]

i am going from 89performance tune to 93, my question is what is the difference from the 93 performance and the 93 cai perf tune and wich one should i use. ?
i have 3.5l 05 magnum

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[Quick]

Do you have a CAI? The tunes were named for the car configuration they were done for. If you have a decent CAI (DiabloSport lists somewhere the ones they used/tested with) the car should be breathing a little better and should be running a little leaner at WOT. So they added a bit more fuel for that one. Higher octane gas can take more timing without detonation so the higher octane tunes have more timing. It's not like a "pick your power level" type of selection. You should choose the tune that matches your car and the gas you're using.

[antone302]

ok...what is a cai i am totally cluesless i am just learning all this good stuff

[antone302]

ok i think that would mean cold air intake ? i have a k&n installed so i guess i would need to use that ?

[jtfinklea]

Here is a link to a Carbon Fiber CAI made by Hammer Automotive.
http://www.lxforums.com/board/showthread.php?t=107222
These allow much more CFM (cubic Feet per Minute ) of air to mix with the fuel. A drop in K&N can help but not as much as a true CAI. As for the tunes, like Quick said each tune 89-93 Octane adds more timing to the base and 89-93CAI-Octane tunes add the timing with more fuel due the CAI.

[mikel]

There are no CAI tunes for the V6 cars.
The difference between the two tunes is timing only...

[antone302]

ok so i filled up with 93 installed the 93ct tune. No big difference......not impressed, im ready to get the hemi.
Went to the dealer this morning and they just got one 08 challenger in, Bad Ass car ! maybe my next move.

[mikel]

ok so i filled up with 93 installed the 93ct tune. No big difference......not impressed, im ready get the hemi.
Went to the dealer this morning and they just got one 08 challenger in, Bad Ass car ! maybe my next move.

DO IT.

[antone302]

so is there something im missing with my tune...any other suggestions ?

[HEMIFISH2004]

so is there something im missing with my tune...any other suggestions ?

you are missing 2 pistons. If you can get that challenger, awsome. But I might wait for the 09 with a tremmec 6 spd.

[antone302]

yeah, im going to wait, there going to have many variations of that vehicle and the guys at the dealership said they will be a lot cheaper, but i would still want to get the 5.7 or 6.1.

[Savage68]

(DiabloSport lists somewhere the ones they used/tested with)

Diablo, where is this list and is the MOPAR CAI for the 5.7 on it?

[Quick]

(DiabloSport lists somewhere the ones they used/tested with)

Diablo, where is this list and is the MOPAR CAI for the 5.7 on it?

They're all going to be the same. Mopar, AFE, Volant, etc. Mopar CAI, go with the CAI tune (if there is one for your car)

[Mike_Levy]

They're actually not all the same. Only the Hammer and aFe S2 show any decent gains. The K&N and Mopar gains are minimal and others actually show losses.