Transmission modes?

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05MAGNUMRT
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Post by 05MAGNUMRT »

CaptainJ wrote:So am I the only one then that Mode 1 and Mode 2 will not auto up shift?
I see in your signature you have V.9r05, I have 9r07 (the latest) so that might be where the problem is, perhaps the 9r07 allows auto upshift in mode 2 while 9r05 didn't, update to 9r07 and see what mode 2 does for you.
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I have an 05 300C 5.7 and there are the 2 modes available using 9r04 and 9r07. Mode 2 is the one I have used and it shifts when I shift it or at the rev limit set by the predator which is adjustable. I think the rev limiter is the key but I could be wrong.
Jeff
2005 300c 5.7, Mods: 180* T-Stat, MagnaFlo-CatBack-Exhaust, JBA Shorty Headers, JBA Catless Mid Pipes, Billet Oil Catch-Can-Blue, Carbon Fiber Air Hammer-CAI, DS-Predator 9r07 crom and Eibach Pro-System Suspension, Mopar TC and Spartan Cam.
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Mine will not shift. The tyranny just disengages at red line. Do I have to change the rev limiter?
2006 Dodge Charger R/T, CAI, 185 T-Stat, 85MM T-Body, NOESP, BT Oil Catch Can, exhaust.
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CaptainJ wrote:Mine will not shift. The tyranny just disengages at red line. Do I have to change the rev limiter?
When you manually upshift with the autostick it won't shift for you?
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I will shift when I make it shift. It will not auto up shift.
2006 Dodge Charger R/T, CAI, 185 T-Stat, 85MM T-Body, NOESP, BT Oil Catch Can, exhaust.
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Post by ZMagnum »

That's how it's supposed to work. You find a mode (for me Mode 1) that keeps it from automatically upshifting in autostick mode. Otherwise, if you want it to automatically upshift, you go back to stock on the autostick part.

It makes it more like a manual transmission which depends on you to shift it. With this method and a little practice I can shift at 5500, 5800, 6000, or whatever.
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Quick wrote:First I think it's sort of like a work in progress. They're also sort of homing in on what to put in there and what's supportable. I think in very early releases they allowed you to disable the knock sensors. I suppose the idea was for people who had false knock. Like from aftermarket valve springs for example. So then a few people blew up their motors by turning the knock sensors turned off. So Diablo decided they should probably take that option out. Too dangerous for the uninformed. I think there is/was some issue with our cars on the dyno and ESP. I believe the option was there for use on a dyno (only).

Why do you think that a NO-ESP feature is something you need? Can't you use the button on the dash? I believe the NO-ESP feature on the Predator will disable your ABS where the dash button will not. There is no reason you want abs disabled while driving the car.

I see it as a sort of balancing act for Diablo. They want to sell the tuner to the general public but if they make it safe enough to sell at Kmart it's not going to be very useful.
Why not just push the ESP button to off on the dyno too rather than disabling in the predator, that makes no sense either or am I missing something?
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Because it only disables ESP 50%.
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Post by Quick »

It depends. Some years and cars the ESP button functions differently. On my 2006 SRT8

press and release - removes straight line traction control (can spin rear tires). Reduces the threshold for intervention and the amount of intervention for lateral traction control. ABS engaged.
press and hold - removes straight line traction control. removes lateral traction control. ABS engaged.

Disabling ESP with the Predator will disable ABS. With my button I don't think there's a reason to disable with the predator for a dyno.
2006 Magnum SRT8
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CaptainJ wrote:Because it only disables ESP 50%.
What is your basis for that? why even have the stupid button then........
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For me it is a moot point. I have the NO ESP mod. :) I can do burn outs, donuts, and crash into guard rails whenever I have it disabled. (ABS still works.)
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ViperGuy wrote:
CaptainJ wrote:Because it only disables ESP 50%.
What is your basis for that? why even have the stupid button then........
Because that is just the way it is on a 06 Charger R/T.
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ViperGuy wrote:
CaptainJ wrote:Because it only disables ESP 50%.
What is your basis for that? why even have the stupid button then........
I've often wondered that as well. What good is the button if it only turns down ESP? It seems like it should either be on or off. In my friend's 2002 Firehawk the ESP button turns it completely off.
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Post by Quick »

ZMagnum wrote:
ViperGuy wrote:
CaptainJ wrote:Because it only disables ESP 50%.
What is your basis for that? why even have the stupid button then........
I've often wondered that as well. What good is the button if it only turns down ESP? It seems like it should either be on or off. In my friend's 2002 Firehawk the ESP button turns it completely off.
You want to get a little sideways in the twisties but you don't want to slide all the way into the woods?
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Mopar Cat Back
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Re: RE: Re: RE: Transmission modes?

Post by ZMagnum »

Quick wrote:
ZMagnum wrote:
ViperGuy wrote: What is your basis for that? why even have the stupid button then........
I've often wondered that as well. What good is the button if it only turns down ESP? It seems like it should either be on or off. In my friend's 2002 Firehawk the ESP button turns it completely off.
You want to get a little sideways in the twisties but you don't want to slide all the way into the woods?
A little sideways? Like a little pregnant?
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