support on previous post-predetor caused damage

[06v6ragtop]

I have not heard after suppling addl info. car ran fine-i installed tune and S&B CAI then car cut out at low rpms in Auto trans 4th and 5th. I was instructed to remove the tune and the CAI and the same problem continues. What did the predetor software corrupt or damage? Do I now have to go the Ford Dealer?
I'm out $500 and my car have very limited drivability-please help

[mikel]

If the problem continues stock, it needs to be checked out at a dealer, its not something the Predator could have done.

[06v6ragtop]

The code P0607 is a fault code for control module perfomance. Most likely your Computer is damaged from the Predetor Tune you installed. The code is not erasable. The code caused your P2105 which is Forced Idle. Your processor will most likely have to be replaced. Fords Computers really don't like tunes or chips if they are done incorrectly. You can see if the code can be cleared or the computer can be reprogrammed to repair the condition. But if not, it will have to be replaced. Your local Dealership is the best place to have the Computer reprogrammed and retested. They can download the proper calibration codes back into the computer that your vehicle came with from the factory.




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[mikel]

Wow, imagine that, a Ford tech telling you it is due to the tune you installed. Crazy.

Wonder what the answer would have been had you not given him a scapegoat by admitting to using the Predator.
At any point, did this guy realize we have sold thousands of the Predators, and if the tunes were done 'incorrectly', dont you think we'd have a lot more people here with the same issue?

[06v6ragtop]

Scapegoat or not if the car ran fine before the tune and now does not. Crazy

[OneCoolGT]

My car is now sitting at the dealership dead because of an installation gone wrong with the predator. I'm not going to down the tuner but even the guy at the dealership who is familiar with tuners told me that Mustangs aren't too tuner-friendly unless you send out the computer and have someone professionally tune it. To quote him, he said "tuners are bad news". Needless to say I wasn't able to utilize my predator the way I wanted to and now I'm waiting to see what the damage is caused by it. And yes, I followed all instructions on how to use it properly, had installed and removed tunes a few times already until yesterday. I'm sending the unit back and going to stick with the stock tune, at least I know it's safe.

[Vapor7]

I believe you will find that your car will not run at all with a C&L intake and NO tune.
I know mine wouldn't. The C&L has a larger MAF than the stock Ford program can accommodate.

[OneCoolGT]

I have the "no tune" option with the insert that goes in the MAF housing so it'll work without a tune.. was working perfectly for the past 6 months I had it in the car.

[concoursd]

Funny how some Ford dealers swear by the Predator and reccomend them to their customers and other say "the computer doesnt like tuners"

How many times have we heard that open air element (oiled cone) filters void your warranty by the dealer only to find out that the Shelby GT, Bullitt, GT500KR have open air element filters as standard equipment.

Nothing wrong with Ford techs but they are in the R&R business (remove and replace). They dont want comebacks, so to them, from their point of view, stock parts fit better than aftermarket ones. Even though when it comes to their marquee cars like the Shelby GT and GT500KR they used Steeda, Roush, Eibach etc. to supply them parts so those parts are okay unless you have a Mustang GT which, in that case, your warranty is void. A lot of hypocrisy.

If you were to send your PCM out to a "professional tuner" and your car had these problems, then your local Ford Tech would refuse to repair the car under warranty because a non-ford calibration was in your vehicle when you brought it in. You wouldnt be able to put the car back to stock to see if it was a calibration issue. So go figure.

An error during the read and write process can occur. In fact, it can occur during a ford dealer reflash as well. It can occur using Ford Racing's Pro Cal tool for their parts and any other diagnostic device that interacts with the computer. It can happen and your computer can be recovered and repaired WITHOUT having to be replaced. Usually, the dealer techs just recommend putting a new computer at the customers expense but in fact DiabloSport has successfully recovered computers for customers that the dealer techs have declared were "dead".

If your module went bad and the symptoms persist when the vehicle is returned to stock then it is not a calibration/tuning issue but probably an electrical part has gone bad. It is unlikely that the Predator caused an electrical module to be fried since the Predator is not a high voltage device. In fact the Predator is powered by the vehicles power and through a fuse controlled system.

We have electronic throttle controlled silverado with the predator installed and after changing a tune we had a low idle issue appear that caused the A/C to stop working. Returned the truck back to stock and the problem persisted. Diagnosed the issue to be carbon buildup around the throttle plate. A few squirts of carb cleaner and 10 minutes later and the truck ran as good as new. It had nothing to do with the Predator. So, sometimes it can be a coincidence.

[OneCoolGT]

Well, here's my update. I didn't need the PCM replaced, they said the tuner wiped out the computer so there was no tune in the car at all. They were able to get the stock program back into my car and now it's back to the way it was before the tuner was hooked up. I'm still not going to mess with it, stock form is good for me from now on. I'm not going to post how much it costed, but it wasn't cheap!

[4648]

Most programming errors occur due to low battery voltage.