Excessive boost on 93 tune stock srt-4

Predator support for Dodge gas vehicles

Moderator: mikel

sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

RE: Excessive boost on 93 tune stock srt-4

Post by sfla_srt4 »

You could use MPH to see what gear you were in.. Log BARO and MAP TO USE so that you can figure your boost. You could get rid of throttle position if you want, as when you go WOT, the MAP pid will show full boost..

Post up a link using a site like deposit files. I wanna see a log..
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

Ok so last night I pulled out the 93 tune and returned the stock tune.Then I disconnected the negative battery cable to clear the pcm.I then re-installed the 93 tune with all parameters re-set. I think that made a difference. I still hit 20 psi in 4th gear for spike but then it fell to 17 psi. This time it did not peg on 20 psi and it felt like it was running really good. I still hit 6 on the st knock though. Here is the data log.So I gather it is better to re-set the pcm to learn mode before installing this tune.
sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Post by sfla_srt4 »

You have LT knock, so reset the PCM again. Log ACT (acutal charge temp), RPMs, and the rest of the PIDs you just had. What are your outside temps in your area? you may have to drop some timing down throughout the RPM ranges to be safe..

Your spiking about 16lbs in 2nd gear, and then getting TONS of knock. you fall off to about 10lbs or so. What is your spark plug gap?? Your getting knock in every gear too lol.
User avatar
johan
Posts: 3943
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:07 am

Post by johan »

I would post up your tune as well.
Johan< @ >DiabloSport.com
Diablosport INC
Research & Development

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, I am not sure about the former.
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

It was probably around 80 degrees outside when I did this run. I live in a desert area that gets very hot and dry during the summer so I want to make sure overheating is not an issue. Johan, the tune installed is the 93 canned tune with no modifications to it. Clearing the pcm before installing the canned tune got rid of the boost holding at high ranges. I was going to get the fuel tank down to about half a tank and fill it with VP racing gas 101 octane at 7.99 a gallon. So drop the timing but any boost adjustments or fuel(lower boost more fuel)? I think the race gas will get rid of the knock completely but it is very expensive. If I run a little richer won't it only effect my pocket book or are the stock injecters a bottle neck with the canned tune? And the stock boost gauge in the car hit 20 psi and then dropped...Do the numbers on the log show that much boost or is the gauge not accurate? The car has 19,000 miles on it and the plugs are the original. The wires have been replaced due to one was shorting out causing a miss(a rat had chewed thru it). And so what plugs do you suggest I install..ngk iridiums?
sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Post by sfla_srt4 »

You need to drop your plug gap to about .032-.035 and maybe your should just get the 4306 NGKs.. I have the V power ones, not iridiums. Try this first and see. Your gauge is probably wrong in the car, you can get your boost by taking the Map to Use pid and then subtracting the BARO.

Johan may want to tweak your tune, so export your last tune written and post it up here.
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

Ok here is the last written tune. It should be the same as the canned tune with the predator(no modifications).
Attachments
last written tune.drg
(2.25 KiB) Downloaded 421 times
User avatar
johan
Posts: 3943
Joined: Fri Jan 26, 2007 10:07 am

Post by johan »

Saw one little thing.
Give this one a shot.
Attachments
1srt4me_toon.drg
(55.68 KiB) Downloaded 393 times
Johan< @ >DiabloSport.com
Diablosport INC
Research & Development

Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, I am not sure about the former.
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

I will install it tonight and run a data log tommorow. Thanks johan & sfla for your help. Should I clear the pcm again before installing tune?
sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Post by sfla_srt4 »

you should return to stock, then go inside and upload the tune to the unit. Then go back to your car and put the new tune on. If you want you could reset your PCM. Good luck!
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

i am having trouble loading the tune onto the predator. I thought it should attatch to the last written tune file. What is the procedure to load it? I thought it took the tune but it said that the ca id was not correct. And now the 93 tune won't load. I think I will have to update firmware to correct.
sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Post by sfla_srt4 »

Open DS downloader. Save Johans file somewhere(I put my tunes in a tune folder) and then go to the advanced tuning tab on the downloader. Click on "Add Tune" and find your tune Johan gave you. If it asks you to load your original, then just find your original file and put it in.
1srt4me
Posts: 28
Joined: Sat Mar 28, 2009 9:47 pm

Post by 1srt4me »

There is a XML parsing error: 'not well-formed(invalid token)' at line 2 that comes up every time I load the file on the list. And then when I pick the last written tune file(the one I gave to Johan it says that they are not compatible file type. When I try any back-up file it states the calibration ID does not match Johan's file. Am I supposed to use a original backup file with it or the 93 octane canned tune file?
sfla_srt4
Posts: 271
Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2008 12:42 pm

Post by sfla_srt4 »

Yes, your ORIGINAL backup file.. If you have not taken an original file off the car for your home computer, then do it. When it asks you to backup, use the original file.
28patrick28
Posts: 87
Joined: Fri Oct 31, 2008 3:03 pm

Post by 28patrick28 »

When u put a new tune in, It is really important to go stock backup before?
Post Reply

Return to “Predator Dodge Gas”