Idea for the 2011+ tunning issue!

[Bullet85]

Arringtons PCM/Harness swap......thats the solution...

[Mike_Levy]

A GM or Ford is a better solution. That way you're showing Fiat/Mopar that you have a real problem with what they're doing, and will not been seen in one of their products until they make things right.

Tell Ralph and Sergio; "I got two words for you....... Fuck you!"

[Bullet85]

A GM or Ford is a better solution. That way you're showing Fiat/Mopar that you have a real problem with what they're doing, and will not been seen in one of their products until they make things right.

Tell Ralph and Sergio; "I got two words for you....... Fuck you!"

Ur right that is the better solution but most ppl cant come out on top for a trade in though on the 11+ hemi's

[kmartin100]

I guess the 2012 and maybe the 2013 will be the same, so everyone just needs to get a Chevy.

[Bullet85]

Call B&G (dave) he just sent me a message saying he can tune the 11+ Hemi..........Here is the message i got

"Not to burst your BS, but I don't appreciate the untruths you have stated. I can tune the 2011/2012/2013 PCM's.If fact I tuned 12 PCM's 2012 today If you feel so inclined send me your PCM I will tune it.."

[mikel]

He's had that capability all along...

[Mike_Levy]

I don't see the adjustments that B&G does as "tuning".

[foreignmuscle]

Engine management 101, some patience, and some electrical knowledge, you can tune anything you want. Just a matter of knowing the right tools and being able to spend the money on whatever you need.

[mikel]

throw in a lot of patience, and a little more patience

[Bullet85]

Well if he has the "capabilities" all along, how come there cant be a "Meet me in the middle" kind of deal with him? If he has the keys to unlock what needs to be unlocked , why not work with him to fix this tuning issue?

[bgdave]

I don't see the adjustments that B&G does as "tuning".

Well then Mike_Levy, I gues that modifiying timing/fuel/rev limit/mph limit/torque managment/cooling fans/etc pedal tables/knk sensors/etc is not tuning to you. Then why should anybody buy a predator or trinity then I guess when they are installed they are not doing any tuning either..

[Bullet85]

Come on Dave an Diablo work something out, for the mopar community

[Mike_Levy]

I don't see the adjustments that B&G does as "tuning".

Well then Mike_Levy, I gues that modifiying timing/fuel/rev limit/mph limit/torque managment/cooling fans/etc pedal tables/knk sensors/etc is not tuning to you. Then why should anybody buy a predator or trinity then I guess when they are installed they are not doing any tuning either..

Well then Dave, wheres your tuner to allow all these owners to do all these things? We keep hearing about all this crap that you can do, but have yet to see a car with anything done. As they say, Prove it or it didn't happen.

[bgdave]

Mike_Levy, There are plenty of guys on challenger talk who have had there 392 tuned. Dyno sheet has been posted showning 38HP/41 TQ gain on a 2011 6.4L mtx, Also another customer picked up I beleive 4 thenths over his best 1/4 time with the tune on a 2012 6.4L ATX..On the lower side a customer showed a dyno sheet of only 9HP/16TQ, but to be fair the ambenit temps outside were 100+ and his recorded intake air temp was 160 and to add to it he was using 91 oct fuel on a 93 oct tune, so what would he expect doing a pull in that Hot Air..Just finished a bunch of PCM's for Guy's who will be posting more info on the Fourm real soon. Again Mike I flash the PCM's directly I do not offer a handheld tuner.This is why I fully support the work that Diablo has done because I understand the inconvenince having to mail in your PCM can be..Hope this helps

[Bullet85]

Could there be a deal with both company's to get this resovled ??????????????????????????/