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ModManiac wrote:

Excursionist wrote:I just purchased a Superchips tuner...thanks for the suggestion. A custom tune does sound interesting. Maybe too late now. Depends on cost and benefits I suppose. About the refund..no one has sent me an RMA. Seems I should qualify though being my PATS system is disabled by the 7170

Oh my, I wish they would hire you and you could try doing their job. If your so set on them having such horrible support then you should send in your application. Glad to see you purchased the superchips tuner, they dont have a forum for you to complain on.

Now thats funny...

johan wrote:

ModManiac wrote:

Excursionist wrote:I just purchased a Superchips tuner...thanks for the suggestion. A custom tune does sound interesting. Maybe too late now. Depends on cost and benefits I suppose. About the refund..no one has sent me an RMA. Seems I should qualify though being my PATS system is disabled by the 7170

Oh my, I wish they would hire you and you could try doing their job. If your so set on them having such horrible support then you should send in your application. Glad to see you purchased the superchips tuner, they dont have a forum for you to complain on.

Now thats funny...

Yes i agree that is seriously funny. If there was even half the money I make presently on the table I might consider helping you guys out. Seriously

you might wish to look at your mod list, lol. In my crystal ball i see a failed turbo shaft, and thats from your banks big head wastegate and banks high boost compressor wheel, lol. I have an extra 7.3 turbo if you need one.

sonicbluel wrote:you might wish to look at your mod list, lol. In my crystal ball i see a failed turbo shaft, and thats from your banks big head wastegate and banks high boost compressor wheel, lol. I have an extra 7.3 turbo if you need one.

Why do you see a problem with Banks. I have not heard of any turbo shaft failures. Why do You make what could be valid points that might help a guy fix a potential problem yet not back them with any literature or links to any literature?

mikel wrote:What exactly is it that I have done to upset you so much?
Considering I am the only one that monitors these forums daily, what would it be like without me?

I am not a tuner, nor is it my job to create updates, but I certainly do more screaming around here on behalf of YOU GUYS than anyone else ever.
Sorry I tried to help, and you'll understand why I will be deleting this super mature thread.

Mike I am still waiting for some answers for some questions. Are you researching them? I restated my questions to you 2 weeks ago now and originally asked them months ago. Still no responses. Why?

Excursionist wrote: Why do you see a problem with Banks. I have not heard of any turbo shaft failures. Why do You make what could be valid points that might help a guy fix a potential problem yet not back them with any literature or links to any literature?

First off i would go to a diesel site and you will find banks has a poor reputation.

I'm not sure what kind of boost numbers your running but your overspining the stock turbo, you can and will reduce the life of the turbo. (you can also effect the balance with the different wheel) Gennerally what happens is the turbo bushings sieze and the turbo shaft breaks. Yes i have seen it more then once on a stock moded 7.3 turbo. Of course you can try to make it live longer by not excessivly over boosting/good maitnence and proper cool down.

As for links i dont really have any, but ford used to have tech sheets showing wastegate bypasses, etc and pics of damages caused by modded turbos. I'm sure if you search on some 7.3 forumns you could find some.

If your planning an upgrade down the road on a turbo maybe its not a biggie for you, but if not, its just a heads up.

sonicbluel wrote:

Excursionist wrote: Why do you see a problem with Banks. I have not heard of any turbo shaft failures. Why do You make what could be valid points that might help a guy fix a potential problem yet not back them with any literature or links to any literature?

First off i would go to a diesel site and you will find banks has a poor reputation.

I'm not sure what kind of boost numbers your running but your overspining the stock turbo, you can and will reduce the life of the turbo. (you can also effect the balance with the different wheel) Gennerally what happens is the turbo bushings sieze and the turbo shaft breaks. Yes i have seen it more then once on a stock moded 7.3 turbo. Of course you can try to make it live longer by not excessivly over boosting/good maitnence and proper cool down.

As for links i dont really have any, but ford used to have tech sheets showing wastegate bypasses, etc and pics of damages caused by modded turbos. I'm sure if you search on some 7.3 forumns you could find some.

If your planning an upgrade down the road on a turbo maybe its not a biggie for you, but if not, its just a heads up.

Thanks, great info i will do some looking. I live only 25 miles from Dynomite Diesel in Monroe, WA and am thinking about a turbo and upgraded injectors this summer.
When I'm on the throttle hard which is not very often I will see 25 pounds of boost. I rarely push beyond 19 to 20. I really wanted the power upgrades for some Miles per gallon as the excursion is a heavy rig. It needed a little more horsepower to weight ratio.

yeah at 25 your pushing your stock turbo, stock is around 16. Plus i think your past the point of actually making anymore power with that level of boost. Most don't realize that the stock turbo was designed to have the wastegate open to allow for extra exhuast flow, not just lower boost.

Personally id turn down the boost to around 20-21 max and you'd probably be ok. However i'd still keep some money put aside, just in case.

I really appreciate your input on this. I dont push my turbo beyond 19-20. How much does the tuner affect how the boost spools up. Mike Litsch do you have an answer on this? What turbos are the best for all around high performance with some towing. How much HP does the turbo add. What can the stock 7.3 handle?

johan wrote:

ModManiac wrote:

Excursionist wrote:I just purchased a Superchips tuner...thanks for the suggestion. A custom tune does sound interesting. Maybe too late now. Depends on cost and benefits I suppose. About the refund..no one has sent me an RMA. Seems I should qualify though being my PATS system is disabled by the 7170

Oh my, I wish they would hire you and you could try doing their job. If your so set on them having such horrible support then you should send in your application. Glad to see you purchased the superchips tuner, they dont have a forum for you to complain on.

Now thats funny...

After using my Supechips tuner all week with amazing shifting, power and mileage..and thats on the 70 hp tow max tune. There are still 2 levels of power above that, I see no reason Superchips which has been writing tunes since the 80's would need a support forum to complain to

Personally i feel superchips should have a forum as i've experinced some issues with their products. I actually have products from 3 companies. Diablosport, Edge, Superchips.

I'm greatfull that diablosport has a forum, as Edge/Superchips do not.

My superchips 1715 worked well, however the tune had a bit to much timing (would ping in tip in durring cold weather operation)and not quite enough fuel aswell as they get rid of the tq modulation.(can reduce trans life)

The predator workes well for me in this application (lightning) as i can tweak the tune/has tuneable tq modulation and out of the box the tune was on the safer side. The added bonus was that i could also download a custom tune as my modifications changed.

My edge(evo) is for my 6.0l, i like having the gauges built into the tuner instead of the pillar full of guages/it came with a built in pyro. I was waiting for the trinity but with no eta i decided my only choice was the edge evo or a gryphon. (the sct livewire is just too big and does not have to many fans from the forums i frequent/the egr prob is another add on)

With the edge i intermitantly have problems when trying to adjust their tuneable options. Occasionallly (aka frequently) when i program my truck with tweaking the tunable options the engine will runs rough as soon as i start the truck, thus im forced to shut it down immediatly and return it to a non adjusted tune. Edge's answer was to not use the custom tune options.

I have experienced many superchips piggy back chips on the 7.3 however one thing if i were you is i would ask them if they still use tq modulation on the 7.3? I know on the chiped piggy backs they did not and with the 4r100 you could experience trans issues with that much tq being applied durring a shift. (smoking clutches) They would dump tq modulation and raise line pressure but still not good to hammer on the truck too much as its just too much weight/tq to not have some tq modulation.

The only 6.0l superchips flashpaq i've expericed on a 6.0l would cause the truck to stumble and surge on accell while blowing out black smoke (no not a bad egr valve) the tuner was just dumping in too much fuel durring low rpm/low boost. I returned it to stock and it was fine. This was early on and since the flashpaq is updateable that issue may have been resolved. It was however not my truck so i have no idea.

My personal opinion is just because you have good luck with a product does not mean that others will, no matter what the brand of tuner or vehicle.

I personally am glad diablosport has a forum where they help you out and where they continue to update their products. I had some problems with my dsdownloader (new version) and they helped me out greatly. I could have used the old version as it worked fine, however now that i got the new version working properly, its much nicer to use.

I also think having a forum like this shows that diablosport has some balls as they are willing to have people post their problems where they can hopefully resolve them, not like others that hide the problems by only having a contact page. Too me that means that they will do their best to stand behind their product, not just hide and hope the problems go away.

I agree. Different vehicles bring different variations to tuning.

I also appreciate the fact we have a forum here. I have only been disappointed for about 5 months actually since I learned of some issues. I have had no support and I see some others are getting support.

I have all my ford receipts for a new pcm, new theft components, new oil pump, new oil pump fittings, new glow plug circuit module.
Why does the Light for the glow plugs stay on while downloading and uploading tunes? Could that cause the burning out of the control module?

I can bet I dont get an answer from Diablo as I never do. I have asked about 10 different Spec questions and NEVER get an answer. MIKE L should get the answers if he wants to claim he is doing his job maintaining the forum. Or perhaps its not just Mike but all the modulators who look the other way.