Well, I do like what its done for my truck, but really disappointed that the TM and other tuning options aren't available for my truck yet. I thought by now, those options would have been released. I bought the cable for just that purpose.
I'll keep my fingers crossed and hope that these options become available and not forgotten.
Steven
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the flex fuel predator announcement on the home page references a product that was developed and released over a year ago. They are just trying to promote it on their website better. And, the flex fuel predators are developed mainly by a third party company, not diablosport, so dont jump on them for that.badblutie wrote:IM PISSED I LOVE MY PREDATOR OTHER THAN THE FACT THAT WE HAVE NO TCM THIS IS BULL **** I AM AT THE POINT THAT IF WE HAVENT HEARD SOME NEWS ON IT IN A WEEK FROM TODAY IM TAKING MINE OFF AND GETTING RID OF IT. I HAVE SOLD PROBABLY 15 OF THEESE UNITS TO MY FRIENDS NOT U7194 BUT OTHER MODELS I WILL SEND MY PEOPLE TO ANOTHER COMPANY THAT IS WILLING TO GIVE ITS CUSTOMERS WHAT THEY PAID FOR. DIABLO IS OBVIOUSLY TO CONCERNED WITH NEW ETHANOL PROGRAMERS TO BE WORRIED ABOUT THEIR OBVIOULSLY UNVALUED CURRENT CUSTOMERS!!! I HATE SLINGING MUD AT ANY BODY BUT I WILL DISCOURAGE AND DOWNGRADE THIS COMPANY ANY CHANCE I GET IT THIS IS NOT MADE RIGHT. I WAS IN THE PROCESS OF BECOMING A DEALER BUT THIS HAS REALLY OPENED MY EYES MAYBE I WILL GO WITH SUPERCHIPS AS BAD AS THAT SOUNDS BUT IT WONT BE A DIABLO. ALSO I HAVE THE LATEST 9R05 AND MY BRAKE LIGHT AND ABS LIGHT COME ON EVERY TIME I GET IN MY TRUCK. THIS IS ALSO BULL STEP IT UP GUYS THIS IS REDICULOUS. SORRY FOR BEING SO BLUNT BUT ITS THE TRUTH I HOPE ALL OF YOU OTHER GUYS STICK WITH ME ON THIS. ALSO ITS VERY POSSIBLE THE SUPERCHIPS CORTEX WILL OUT RUN YOU WITH NO TCM EVEN THOUGH WE CAN ADJUST FUEL INJECTOR SLOPE,ENRICHMENT,AND SPARK HOW EMBARASSING WOULD THAT BE???? DONT LEAVE ME HANGIN GUYS TELL THEM HOW YOU FEEL
still cant believe how long it has taken them to get this TCM support done.
well the guy i bought my programmer from says i can send him my tcm from my truck in to shut off torque management and firm up and faster shifts. no other way to do it. im sure new hardware would have to be release in order to adjust tcm just like superchips has all the pins in their programmer plug in.
i think diablo is jerking your chain along here... 2 years and still no support. probably never going to happen. its just too bad i didnt read this forum before i bought one.
i think diablo is jerking your chain along here... 2 years and still no support. probably never going to happen. its just too bad i didnt read this forum before i bought one.
Well it is not so much this forum as it is the place you purchased it from. To my knowledge DiabloSport never published any marketing material or specs that included TCM options in the feature list. What you are looking at is a situation of falling behind the competition on an after-sale improvement.killerrf wrote:well the guy i bought my programmer from says i can send him my tcm from my truck in to shut off torque management and firm up and faster shifts. no other way to do it. im sure new hardware would have to be release in order to adjust tcm just like superchips has all the pins in their programmer plug in.
i think diablo is jerking your chain along here... 2 years and still no support. probably never going to happen. its just too bad i didnt read this forum before i bought one.
Regardless, they have been giving current owners after-sale committments and ETA dates for the TCM support and have grossly failed to meet them.
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What is the Diablosport Predator? (Predator Application Chart - Click or Scroll down)
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
Dyno Tested Performance Tunes
The Predator was created with one thing in mind, POWER! The Predator's additional power makes itself noticeable immediately with an increase in power that starts in the low RPMs and builds into a frenzy at the high RPMs.
A Predator equipped vehicle will notice significant improvements in drivability. The additional power and improved shift patterns created by the Predator tune will yield quicker acceleration and better mileage, whether it is in town or out on the highway.
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
U7191 Stock Vehicle Tunes:
• Performance Tune: Designed to add power and torque using premium fuel.
• Factory Tune: Designed for users who wants to adjust parameters using the factory tune.
U7191 Specific Features:
• Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 2000-3800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Fuel Table 2000-3800rpm (+/- 20%)
• Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
• Idle (+ 400rpm / -400rpm)
• Rev Limiters
• CAGS ON/OFF (skip shift)
• COT ON/OFF (catalytic converter overtemp protection)
• COT enable time
• Fan Calibration
• Adjust for different injector size
• Adjust for long term fuel trims
• Internet Updateable
• All standard DiabloSport Predator features
The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners'
HOW MANY TIMES IS IT SAID AT HOW MANY DEALERS!!!
Wake up there is no TCM SUPPORT and there never will be!!!!
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
Dyno Tested Performance Tunes
The Predator was created with one thing in mind, POWER! The Predator's additional power makes itself noticeable immediately with an increase in power that starts in the low RPMs and builds into a frenzy at the high RPMs.
A Predator equipped vehicle will notice significant improvements in drivability. The additional power and improved shift patterns created by the Predator tune will yield quicker acceleration and better mileage, whether it is in town or out on the highway.
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
U7191 Stock Vehicle Tunes:
• Performance Tune: Designed to add power and torque using premium fuel.
• Factory Tune: Designed for users who wants to adjust parameters using the factory tune.
U7191 Specific Features:
• Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 2000-3800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Fuel Table 2000-3800rpm (+/- 20%)
• Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
• Idle (+ 400rpm / -400rpm)
• Rev Limiters
• CAGS ON/OFF (skip shift)
• COT ON/OFF (catalytic converter overtemp protection)
• COT enable time
• Fan Calibration
• Adjust for different injector size
• Adjust for long term fuel trims
• Internet Updateable
• All standard DiabloSport Predator features
The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners'
HOW MANY TIMES IS IT SAID AT HOW MANY DEALERS!!!
Wake up there is no TCM SUPPORT and there never will be!!!!
http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?mo ... lay&pid=63Ill_Born_SS wrote:What is the Diablosport Predator? (Predator Application Chart - Click or Scroll down)
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
Dyno Tested Performance Tunes
The Predator was created with one thing in mind, POWER! The Predator's additional power makes itself noticeable immediately with an increase in power that starts in the low RPMs and builds into a frenzy at the high RPMs.
A Predator equipped vehicle will notice significant improvements in drivability. The additional power and improved shift patterns created by the Predator tune will yield quicker acceleration and better mileage, whether it is in town or out on the highway.
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
U7191 Stock Vehicle Tunes:
• Performance Tune: Designed to add power and torque using premium fuel.
• Factory Tune: Designed for users who wants to adjust parameters using the factory tune.
U7191 Specific Features:
• Timing Table 1000-1800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 2000-3800rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Timing Table 4000-7000rpm (+15/- 40%)
• Fuel Table 2000-3800rpm (+/- 20%)
• Fuel Table 4000-7000rpm (+/- 20%)
• Idle (+ 400rpm / -400rpm)
• Rev Limiters
• CAGS ON/OFF (skip shift)
• COT ON/OFF (catalytic converter overtemp protection)
• COT enable time
• Fan Calibration
• Adjust for different injector size
• Adjust for long term fuel trims
• Internet Updateable
• All standard DiabloSport Predator features
The transmission parameters are remapped to improve the shift characteristics such as shift firmness and shift points. Unlike other 'tuners'
HOW MANY TIMES IS IT SAID AT HOW MANY DEALERS!!!
Wake up there is no TCM SUPPORT and there never will be!!!!
There is nothing on their website that suggests that. If you are implying that a reseller of their products knowingly deceived the customer, then that would be a dispute between the customer and reseller.
As stated before, there have repeatedly failed to meet stated release dates for TCM support.
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"WE WANT TCM, WE WANT TCM, WE WANT TCM......."Grumpy_Aero_Guy wrote:Damn... did it againGrumpy_Aero_Guy wrote:06MonteSS wrote:
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I was having withdrawals 
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http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?mo ... lay&pid=63
"There is nothing on their website that suggests that. If you are implying that a reseller of their products knowingly deceived the customer, then that would be a dispute between the customer and reseller."
Above I gave current quotes from just two dealers ads. The RED lettering/wording is as you read and is misleading!!
The web link that you so quickly quote is below read it and spot the difference:
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
"There is nothing on their website that suggests that. If you are implying that a reseller of their products knowingly deceived the customer, then that would be a dispute between the customer and reseller."
Above I gave current quotes from just two dealers ads. The RED lettering/wording is as you read and is misleading!!
The web link that you so quickly quote is below read it and spot the difference:
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
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It's disappointing that I purchased the preditor for the main reason of TM/shift management. I knew when I bought it, that the feature was not available for either, but assumed that it would be shortly down the road till the new software was released. When I bought the diablo, I bought the cable to make sure I was ready when the software was released.
It don't look like I'll be using that cable anytime soon
It don't look like I'll be using that cable anytime soon
2007 GMC Sierra SLT Vmax. 4.10 gears, Bedrug, Boss MT100 20x8.5 wheels/Kumho STX tires, Extang Bed cover, Light of fire, Denali Grill, GM Performance Intake and DiabloSport
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oh, talk about miss leading. The flex fuel page gives truck owners to run E85 in non flex fuel vehicles, and shows a picture of NBS truck but under the list of trucks available it only goes up to 07 classic.
2007 GMC Sierra SLT Vmax. 4.10 gears, Bedrug, Boss MT100 20x8.5 wheels/Kumho STX tires, Extang Bed cover, Light of fire, Denali Grill, GM Performance Intake and DiabloSport
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So we agree then. You posted ads from resellers that are mis-representing the product and advertising different specs/description of the predator than DiabloSport. Therefore that is a problem between the reseller and the customer.Ill_Born_SS wrote:http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?mo ... lay&pid=63
"There is nothing on their website that suggests that. If you are implying that a reseller of their products knowingly deceived the customer, then that would be a dispute between the customer and reseller."
Above I gave current quotes from just two dealers ads. The RED lettering/wording is as you read and is misleading!!
The web link that you so quickly quote is below read it and spot the difference:
What is the Diablosport Predator?
The Predator is a state-of-the art, high performance tuning flash programmer in a sleek handheld design. Once connected to the vehicle, the Predators internal computer recognizes the vehicles PCM and automatically picks the proper tuning files designed specifically for that PCM. Inside the Predator's memory are the actual tuning files that optimize spark timing and air/fuel ratio curves. Unlike other 'tuners', DiabloSport's programming is performed in very small increments throughout the entire RPM range, for a smoother, wider and a more predictable power delivery. DiabloSport engineers spend many hours on the dyno, street and track to ensure the tunes provided with the Predator are the best they can be.
Yeah, that is a problem for them. They need to clean that up.oh, talk about miss leading. The flex fuel page gives truck owners to run E85 in non flex fuel vehicles, and shows a picture of NBS truck but under the list of trucks available it only goes up to 07 classic.
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RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: *** No TCM Support for your vehicle yet?
“So we agree then. You posted ads from resellers that are mis-representing the product and advertising different specs/description of the predator than DiabloSport. Therefore that is a problem between the reseller and the customer.â€
Only one thing to say about my "Diablew" Tune!
" Just Friggin Wicked"
Now with TCM support...
" Just Friggin Wicked"
Now with TCM support...
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: *** No TCM Support for your vehicle yet?
now ive been reading all the new posts and this one for a while now.. as a new predator owner i am a bit concerned with the feed back from diablosport. It seems(please correct me if i am wrong) that no one ever gets a straight answer.i see that Mike chimes in everyonce in a while about it but doesn't get specific(i understand in house politics must be at work) but instead of "They're working on it." or "We have guys at Area 51 working on TCM as we speak" why cant a respectable answer be givin.. be it software incompatibility or other projects are more important... what i have seen is most of these guys are wanting a bit of hope that it IS going to be released. I was once told that the big name tuners will someday have a handheld for the 97-98 ls1 cars... it never happened(finally hptuners and hypertech... yikes). is this going to happen with the TCM support? sorry to rant i know im just a noob on this forum but i am an AVID GM freak and have owned 5 LSX powered cars... so i do understand the grasp for every ounce of superiority. I guess i just want one good solid answer...
thanks
Ethan
btw does anyone want to help me tune my gto? i have no idea what i am doing...
thanks
Ethan
btw does anyone want to help me tune my gto? i have no idea what i am doing...
06 Trailblazer SS
05 GTO
98 Corvette
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: *** No TCM Support for your vehicle
[quote="Ill_Born_SS"]“So we agree then. You posted ads from resellers that are mis-representing the product and advertising different specs/description of the predator than DiabloSport. Therefore that is a problem between the reseller and the customer.â€