I think I got scammed at a CMR tuner.

[pepe88]

I needed to get me car tuned so I called the nearest CMR to ask if they had experience with the srt4. The owner said, "Oh yes, we do a lot of those". So, I drove almost 4 hours one way to get the car tuned. After I paid for the tune (I did think it was funny to pay upfront but what did I know) the tuner said he had never done a PT Cruiser or a Neon. Great! I still figured they must know what they're doing. As soon as I hit the road (slow) the car overheated! I had to go into the tune and turn down the temps so the fans would kick on. After all this, I think the tune sucks! I did get a chart showing the dyno results after the tune.

They are:

HP: 213.3 @ 5495
TQ: 251.6 @ 3503
AF according to chart is always between 11 and 11.6

A little background:

I just put in the AGP wga last week and when I turned it up, the boost was way out of control. I turned it down to between 10-13 psi so I left it so I would be safe until tune.

After the tune, the boost is exactly in the same place 10-13 psi at redline. Never spiking over 13.

I see in the dsp that he did lean it out a little but I feel no power diff after the tune. I would think with all of the mods:

Stage 1, vak5, 3" exhaust, plastic manifold, AGP wga, txs-bc, and motor mounts.

that I should see more than 213 HP!

What can I do about this? I think this is $500 right down the tubes!!

Ahhhh! Looks like I'll be getting the wideband afterall!

[mikel]

Only 13 PSI?

Surprised they did not raise the boost, what does it say under last tune written?
got a copy of the graphs?

[pepe88]

I know, I had already set the boost at a comfortable level before taking it in because I wanted the boost way up (around 17-18). The only reason for the tune is beacause I did not want to have to buy a wideband.

Now, I know all I need to do is turn the adjustment on the wastegate a couple of times toward the firewall. It would be easy but dangerous for me to do that without know a/f.

Just still trying to figure out that if I know this stuff (and I don't know much) why a "professional" tuner would not have the knowledge to do it.

Also, we talked about boost levels when I dropped off the car off. I said that most guys (on ptcrew.com) were seeing 17-18 and more psi with no problems.

Where do I see the last tune written? I did look through the tune. The fuel was leaned out so I know that he at least did something.

Thanks for your help!

[mikel]

Options/show last tune written.

[pepe88]

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[mikel]

ya, they did not use CMR, thats not a custom tune, but a modified (through the adjustable parameters) canned tune, was not even opened up in CMR to edit.

What did they charge you?

[pepe88]

OMG! $500. And since the fan temps were turned up so it would not come on, do you think he did that so I would have to take it back in so they could get more $$?

[06MonteSS]

WOW!!!!

[mikel]

No, he just did not think to lower them apparently...

[pepe88]

Why would he have raised the fans temps in the first place? I had been running the 93 tune for a couple of weeks with no overheating.

Anyway, what can be done about this?

[06MonteSS]

I'd definitely go back and bitch like hell and get my money back - or at least MOST of it!! that's BS... the guy screwed ya...

I'd be up one side of him and down the other, with a ball bat...

he charged you that much for a "custom tune", that isn't even custom... everything that that guy did, you could have done yourself through the handheld, since that's all HE did...

that's rediculous man...