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you can delete this im getting it cmr soon the right why at fast trax

MIKEP300C wrote:please help thanks so much

http://diablosport.com/index.php?name=P ... ic&t=17445

hey there...

don't really do the dodge's and fords, cuz their stuff is totally different from GM's... heh... including the logging parameters...

however, after taking a quick look at your log, you have a LOT of knock retard...

the column of data for KNK MAX TOTAL RETARD goes from 6* of knock retard all the way up to 15* of knock retard! OUCH!!

this is why when you tune a vehicle, you need to really do it in the summer time, when it's the warmest/hottest weather for your area where you'll be driving in...

because, during the colder winter weather, you will be able to run with more timing/spark advance than when it's hot out... so then when summer weather hits, you run into this exact scenario... way too much timing...

so now it will run like crap and you'll have a TON of knock/retard... which accounts for your power loss that you're experiencing...

you need to have that thing re-tuned, and do it in the warmer/hotter weather...

so should i add timing or loose timming i knew i did feel something wrong

noooo... don't add timing... you already have too much timing in there...

start with pulling out/removing about 3* and see what that does..

06MonteSS wrote:

MIKEP300C wrote:please help thanks so much

http://diablosport.com/index.php?name=P ... ic&t=17445

hey there...

don't really do the dodge's and fords, cuz their stuff is totally different from GM's... heh... including the logging parameters...

however, after taking a quick look at your log, you have a LOT of knock retard...

the column of data for KNK MAX TOTAL RETARD goes from 6* of knock retard all the way up to 15* of knock retard! OUCH!!

this is why when you tune a vehicle, you need to really do it in the summer time, when it's the warmest/hottest weather for your area where you'll be driving in...

because, during the colder winter weather, you will be able to run with more timing/spark advance than when it's hot out... so then when summer weather hits, you run into this exact scenario... way too much timing...

so now it will run like crap and you'll have a TON of knock/retard... which accounts for your power loss that you're experiencing...

you need to have that thing re-tuned, and do it in the warmer/hotter weather...

holy crap i just saw that how come i didnt see it before im still dead working 70 hours towing wow i guess i can loose timming like 3 degrees all the way right i should be fine right plus i even open the pleum to see if i had oil in the bottom none i thought i needed a caught can but shes clean as new im stuck

06MonteSS wrote:noooo... don't add timing... you already have too much timing in there...

start with pulling out/removing about 3* and see what that does..

gotcha thanks thanks alot for being a new friend lets see if she blows up lol
i tell ya what happens thanks again im a ford and chevy man new to this hemi stuff lol
where do i want total timing to be at 5 degrees no highe in full pull
thanks again

np man, you're welcome...


LOL if she blows up, I didn't do it... wasn't me... nope, no sir...

im try 3 degrees less all around and see what she do hey cops ima do a full pull down frontage road lmao

eh, the knock is still the same....

so, I'm not sure what parameter to check or what your settings affect man...

like I say, I'm a GM guy, and the dodge/chrysler and ford stuff is totally different...



sell it and get a GM vehicle...

i tryed -5 on the cmr tune but cop was behind me i took off and ran then got inbetween cars and left again but got caught lol oh well whats 300 dollars lol

now ima try -5 degrees with plus 5 plus 5 plus 5 fuel

I would add different PID to your Log. Did i get this right that a cop nailed you while datalogging???
Engine coolant temp; Base Timing; Spark advance Cyl 1; Map vacuum; Engine RPM; Vehicle Speed; Throttle pposition %; P-Ratio; Ambient Temp; Intake Temperature; Knock Long Term; knock Short Term;

These PID will help explain almost a complete story.
Also Fuel Trims if you are sending your log to your "Tuner".

HerDaytona wrote:I would add different PID to your Log. Did i get this right that a cop nailed you while datalogging???
Engine coolant temp; Base Timing; Spark advance Cyl 1; Map vacuum; Engine RPM; Vehicle Speed; Throttle pposition %; P-Ratio; Ambient Temp; Intake Temperature; Knock Long Term; knock Short Term;

These PID will help explain almost a complete story.
Also Fuel Trims if you are sending your log to your "Tuner".

yep 111 in a 45 lol

06MonteSS wrote:the column of data for KNK MAX TOTAL RETARD goes from 6* of knock retard all the way up to 15* of knock retard! OUCH!!

Holy crap! that could be more than an "ouch!" (didn't look at the logs). Here's the max timing the 5.7 pcm will pull in response to knock. If that doesn't handle it then what's left is sustained detonation...

Max timing pulled in response to knock detection:
Stock 5.7L
RPM deg pulled ST and LT combined
6000 5
5200 7
4800 9
4000 10
3600 10
3000 12
2000 12
1200 15
600 15

Quick wrote:

06MonteSS wrote:the column of data for KNK MAX TOTAL RETARD goes from 6* of knock retard all the way up to 15* of knock retard! OUCH!!

Holy crap! that could be more than an "ouch!" (didn't look at the logs). Here's the max timing the 5.7 pcm will pull in response to knock. If that doesn't handle it then what's left is sustained detonation...

Max timing pulled in response to knock detection:
Stock 5.7L
RPM deg pulled ST and LT combined
6000 5
5200 7
4800 9
4000 10
3600 10
3000 12
2000 12
1200 15
600 15

any suggestions or live with it
thanks quick i dont under stand what ya wrote should i add fuel and retard it im lost

she run awesome in 40- 50 degree weather summer time it just dont have it