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2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 5:05 am
by RamTex
Just throwing this idea out there seeing as e85 is a higher octane and can boast much higher power gains. Would love to see this come out in future updates if possible.

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 3:56 pm
by mikel
Can be done easily in a custom tune ;)

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Sun Jun 12, 2011 4:24 pm
by Mike_Levy
The Hemis don't like Ethanol. They claim its higher octane, but it knocks like crazy. Even E10-E15 is no good.

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 10:30 am
by mikel
Oh, they like E85 just fine, when set up properly ;)

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 1:41 pm
by Mike_Levy
And when not....

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RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:13 pm
by mikel
what the hell happened there...and how was it e85s fault???

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 3:20 pm
by Mike_Levy
I have no idea what happened there. Somebody sent it to me, saying mine could be worse. It looks to be a major case of detonation. Could be ethanol related. I know my SRTs have always knocked like crazy on any amount of ethanol. They're much happier on straight gasoline (which I can only get now in 5 gallon cans for $70. :().

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 4:23 pm
by mikel
You'd be amaxzed how forgiving e85 is.
Cars that lean out on E85 dont pop nearly as easy, and cars that have issues holding timing with race gas are often amazed at how much spark they can run with E85.

I love the stuff.

Local car:
http://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=w ... cMgpA1xn9w

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:08 pm
by Mike_Levy
Thats great for the LS cars, but still the Hemi was never designed to be run on E85, where the LS based Vortecs were. And when it doesn't even like E10, who knows hows it will react to E85? The Hemis just seem to like plain old 100 octane E0 with a little NitroMethane. Minimal knock, maximum power.

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:25 pm
by mikel
not sure why you say that.

The LS was not designed for Eanything, and there are flexfuel DCX vehicles everywhere....

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 5:28 pm
by Mike_Levy
The Vortecs, which are basically truck versions of the LS, are sold as Flex fuel. The Hemis are sold for regular gas only. The 4.7s and such are sold as flex fuel, but not the Hemi.

RE: 2009 Ram HEMI E85 Tune

Posted: Mon Jun 13, 2011 6:13 pm
by mikel
Theres nothing about the internal engine design that makes it better fr use with Ethanol...

Posted: Thu Jul 28, 2011 11:14 pm
by beachking2000
Detonation is easy with e85 but he is right about tuning to get rid off/ I still wouldnt run e85 here is why. E85 vehicles i thought off the assembly line get dif fuel line hoses,different o rings in the injectors etc. E85 might eat/dry out some of the rubber parts in non e85 vehicles.

Posted: Fri Jul 29, 2011 9:14 am
by mikel
beachking2000 wrote:Detonation is easy with e85 but he is right about tuning to get rid off/ I still wouldnt run e85 here is why. E85 vehicles i thought off the assembly line get dif fuel line hoses,different o rings in the injectors etc. E85 might eat/dry out some of the rubber parts in non e85 vehicles.
100% incorrect.

its not a myth.
its not a joke.
It is 100% fact, you can run e85 in any late model vehicle without changing out the entire fuel system.
Problem is, with its extra 30% required, you'll tap your fuel system out quicker, thus most people that decide to run e85 are running an aftermarket fuel system.
When we shop for fuel system parts, we dont buy anything specific for E85, we just buy stuff that will support 30% more power on Gas than we need ;)

Posted: Sun Aug 07, 2011 3:05 am
by notnks
Do you have a tune for running E85 in a 09 Ram? If you do I would like to try it when I get back to the states(I'm working in one of the sand box's right now) I have always been told that Ethanol has more BTU's than gas which = more power, is that true in your experience? Thanks