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Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Sat Nov 17, 2012 5:09 pm
by MR.T
First, I'd like to mention that I like the Trinity a lot, as well as the TSS custom tune I'm using :) . Maybe this is a software issue, or some odd defect in my particular Trinity programmer.

During sleep mode, the battery amp draw is 0.14 A. For a relatively short time this is insignificant, but for a couple weeks it means a battery that is too drained to start the engine.

Let's do the math: 0.14 amps times ( 24 hours) times (14 days) equals 47 AH (Amp Hours ). 47 AH loss is enough to cause a typical battery to not start an engine. The battery in my 2008 Jeep Wrangler is an Odyssey 34-PC1500 that has a max of 68 AH under the test conditions. Test and real conditions are not equivalent, but for a quick sanity check that's about 31% capacity remaining after two weeks -- which is probably a best case scenario. The reality is that after two weeks it wasn't dead, still lit the dome light fine, but couldn't crank the engine.

Testing: Ignition switch in OFF position (key removed), courtesy lamps turned OFF. Amp meter connected in series at the positive battery term. With Trinity unplugged, 0.00 amps. After Trinity initially plugged in, 0.18 amps. With Trinity in sleep mode (LCD display off, amber LED slowly blinking, and sleep timer set for 60 seconds), 0.14 amps. The 0.14 amps is continuous and doesn't reduce. When Trinity is disconnected during sleep or regular mode, the amps immediately go to 0.00.

Note that even though the current meter indicated 0.00 above, there is actually some small current drain -- probably less than 5 ma (0.005 A) which is so low that this meter range doesn't show it.

The vehicle is a 2008 Jeep Wrangler and Version 1R09A is in the Trinity.

What do you think is causing this? Let me know if I can help further to diagnose this, or perhaps try a replacement if necessary.

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Mon Nov 19, 2012 12:32 pm
by mikel
interesting, we are investigating.

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 10:47 am
by da kine rt
Does trinity have toremain plugged in after tune is installed? I was under impression it a download, unplug and forget unless; it because some are using it for gauge monitoring and/or data logging?

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Thu Nov 22, 2012 7:20 pm
by MR.T
da kine rt wrote:Does trinity have toremain plugged in after tune is installed? I was under impression it a download, unplug and forget unless; it because some are using it for gauge monitoring and/or data logging?
It doesn't have to remain plugged in. I use it routinely as a gauge, and also for data logging.

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Sun Nov 25, 2012 9:58 pm
by da kine rt
Thanks for info...I was a bit concerned with dead battery problem. I plan to download tune and forget, I may use the logging display later once issue is resolved.

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2012 11:17 pm
by MR.T
mikel -- Any progress on this yet?

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Mon Dec 03, 2012 1:30 pm
by mikel
we are still investigating.

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Mon Feb 04, 2013 8:36 pm
by MR.T
mikel wrote:we are still investigating.
Any news regarding this?

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Tue Feb 05, 2013 2:23 am
by Johnnyc91
I have the same issue. I have a 2010 Challenger. In the warmer months I did not have any problems since i was driving the car daily. Since the weather is bad (not going to drive it in the snow) the battery goes dead and will not start the car. I left the trinity unplugged and had no issue with the battery. plugged it back in and it killed the battery.
Please help Diablo!!!

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Mon Apr 15, 2013 12:22 am
by dguth66
Has the battery drain been narrowed down ?
Seems to be affecting a few ..

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Tue Apr 16, 2013 6:29 pm
by GG33
mikel wrote:we are still investigating.
Any News???

Re: Dead battery and sleep mode amps

Posted: Wed Apr 17, 2013 8:09 pm
by dguth66
Last I read Mike was saying to set timer to 60 sec