2012 Challenger R/T 93 Octane Tune. No gains?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2013 8:15 am
I recently purchased the Diablosport InTune and began running 93 Octane through it from the start. I've only used Shell and Exxon who from what I've read have quality gasoline. I waited to utilize the 93 Octane until I'd ran at least a tank through the engine. Last night I took the vehicle in for a dyno / tune and at this point it had been through over two and a half tanks of 93 so there should be next to no 89 anywhere in the tank.
Prior to the InTune I installed the following mods since I've had the vehicle: JBA Shorty Headers, Charger Air Intake Tube, K&N Air Filter, removed the resonators and installed Flowmaster American Thunder mufflers. Okay. So prior to the dyno I put the vehicle back to stock. I managed 353.21 HP and 394.87 TQ. Then we tuned to 93 with no adjustments. The numbers dropped to 350.52 and 391.42 respectively. This seemed odd as the 93 Octane Tune is advertised to boost numbers. With tinkering of timing and what not we got the vehicle up to 354.64 RWHP and 396.94 TQ. Now from what I've seen these are higher numbers than 100% stock but the gains, or lack thereof from a 93 Octane Tune confused both the tech and I.
I've come to a few possible conclusions but maybe someone can help me out here. Either the stock tune didn't take so the first run was faulty, the ECM learned the optimal flow of air so there were no gains from tuning to 93, the mods themselves just overcome the benefit of 93 Octane or the engine is knocking because Shell and Exxon still aren't good enough fuels and it is retarding itself. Any ideas? The Shells, Exxons and BPs in my area only have 93 Octane for premium.
Prior to the InTune I installed the following mods since I've had the vehicle: JBA Shorty Headers, Charger Air Intake Tube, K&N Air Filter, removed the resonators and installed Flowmaster American Thunder mufflers. Okay. So prior to the dyno I put the vehicle back to stock. I managed 353.21 HP and 394.87 TQ. Then we tuned to 93 with no adjustments. The numbers dropped to 350.52 and 391.42 respectively. This seemed odd as the 93 Octane Tune is advertised to boost numbers. With tinkering of timing and what not we got the vehicle up to 354.64 RWHP and 396.94 TQ. Now from what I've seen these are higher numbers than 100% stock but the gains, or lack thereof from a 93 Octane Tune confused both the tech and I.
I've come to a few possible conclusions but maybe someone can help me out here. Either the stock tune didn't take so the first run was faulty, the ECM learned the optimal flow of air so there were no gains from tuning to 93, the mods themselves just overcome the benefit of 93 Octane or the engine is knocking because Shell and Exxon still aren't good enough fuels and it is retarding itself. Any ideas? The Shells, Exxons and BPs in my area only have 93 Octane for premium.