Decreased ESP (traction control) in canned tunes?

1fastsedan · Post by **1fastsedan** » Wed Oct 03, 2007 10:56 am

I got my Predator yesterday and so far I'm loving it. I did have a question about ESP in the canned tune. Are the thresholds raised? Does it kick in later? I did not use the ESP option on modifying the tune, but the back end broke loose on me this morning

and the ESP didn't kick in.

XERyder · Post by **XERyder** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 10:21 am

I am curious about this too.

The Disable feature of the Predator claims to disable ESP, BAS And ABS as I have read it. All relevant lights come on to let you know the various systems are disabled - Right Mike?

A user who has the 91 CAI tune installed said he burnt rubber with ESP ON though, so maybe the remapping is a little more than ESP can handle while ON - which is fine by me.

donatom3 · Post by **donatom3** » Thu Oct 04, 2007 3:30 pm

I'm one of the users who said I broke the tires loose with the ESP ON. I'm not completely sure but I believe it's the torque management reduction that allows you to break the tires loose. I can burn it out even longer with ESP off by the button on the dashboard. This car has come so alive from just using the ESP button that I've been a bit reluctant to use the ESP off feature of the PRedator.

yamaha1 · Post by **yamaha1** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 10:34 pm

look fellas, Ive got a GC and with it stock it would break loose. Even with the esp on it still broke loose, just put the predator on and it runs better but the wheel spin is about the same with the esp enabled and on. Havent disabled it yet cause tires arent cheap. I smacked it once when it was stock in the rain and all hell broke loose, all 4 tires spun and the truck got sideways bad, it didnt stop till I stopped which was half way through second. I think I got one of the good ones.

donatom3 · Post by **donatom3** » Fri Oct 05, 2007 11:13 pm

Yamaha is yours a GC SRT8 or 5.7L?

scott57rt · Post by **scott57rt** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:43 pm

I've got a 5.7L Charger RT, and mine broke loose, too. The tail end started coasting out from under me, and the traction control lights came on. I've got high flow CATs and headers, but it never did that with my superchips with ESP on. I was thinking it's the added torque from the diablo tuner, but I'd like to hear if the ESP was modified....Mike?

BJB · Post by **BJB** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 4:55 pm

I also put the tune on this morning and was playing with the ESP. I ran 0-60 with traction control on and off

Traction Control off 3.99
Traction Control on 3.58

Go figure?

I felt the vehicle handled funny in slow tight turns with the Predator fuction of disabling the ESP

BJB

scott57rt · Post by **scott57rt** » Sat Oct 06, 2007 8:46 pm

Did you say 3.99? Holy Crap! What do you have in that thing?

Post by **mikel** » Mon Oct 08, 2007 12:44 pm

TC should be unaffected by the standard Performance tunes.

Thanks

BJB · Post by **BJB** » Sun Oct 21, 2007 8:56 am

I downloaded the latest from Diablo and installed the Performance CAI 93 and saw a improvement 0-60 It is now 3.33 Wow!!

bacafrog · Post by **bacafrog** » Mon Oct 22, 2007 9:34 pm

The way I understand it, Torque Management is reduced with the canned tunes. That is what is allowing you to bust the tires loose where you could not before. Also with the ESP turned off or reduced by all the different ways out there you can get even better burn outs. HAL has to much control over are cars, in some areas. From what I have read and what I know of our cars, we do not want to reduce the Torque Management system all the way though. To due so would be detremental to our drive line. Which to me says that the rear-end and the Tranny can not handle everything these Hemis can put out. TM and ESP are two seperate systems. We can turn the ESP off 100%, just not the TM system. Hope this sheds some light on the issue.

SRT8GUY · Post by **SRT8GUY** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 11:43 am

I have the 91 oct CAI tune and my back tires breaks lose ESP is not disabled but it dose come on when my tires break lose

RFischer · Post by **RFischer** » Sat Nov 10, 2007 8:19 pm

I've noticed the ESP doesn't kick in as early as well, or I've spun loose more before it did kick in. My son and I noticed it almost by accident (he thought it was neat) ... I'm not complaining ... I think it's great ...

coliseum · Post by **coliseum** » Sun Nov 11, 2007 3:01 am

With esp ON... my wheels spin like crazy! with esp off, the car almost goes out of control... I'm drifting

But yes, I do have the same question, how come esp takes longer to kick in?

NetNathan · Post by **NetNathan** » Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:01 pm

As far as Torque Management goes. I am quite sure there are no changes to Torque Management (TM).
I brought this up quite a bit before release that the Predator will not allow us to edit TM. IT should at least allow reduced TM, if not full disable (this way we can really trash our half-shafts).
I THINK this is possible with custom tuning software at least it had better be. I mean B&G could alter TM why can't Diablo?

Also ability for TM adjustments were stated on the release propaganda.
Read the first post about halfway down....
"You wanted adjustable parameters.. you got it.
Adjust your fuel, spark, idle, cooling fans, ESP, Torque Management,
more.. all up to you. "
http://www.diablosport.com/index.php?na ... pic&t=3215

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