this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
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Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
wow this is all over the place lol...
First off your truck comes tuned for 89 stock. I dont know what you expected running the lowest tune.
Second, there are too many variables in a quarter mile run to say that the tuner is the reason for the slower ET. The most accurate way to see how the tuner affected your truck would have been to do a stock run then load the tune and do another run as soon as you can. Thats the only way to cut out MOST variables but not all.
Third, your not even data logging to see what your truck is doing. Stop flaming and please do some reading. Dig through this forum or even try out a few of the ram forums, there is a wealth of information waiting for you.
I had a 2012 ram also, and after data logging I realized the 93 tune was giving me too much knock retard due to the crappy gas stations I was using. I tested a few others and found a good one, then got a custom tune for my truck and it ran perfect. Much stronger than it did stock.
I dont always agree with the way Diablo does business either but they have an excellent product.
First off your truck comes tuned for 89 stock. I dont know what you expected running the lowest tune.
Second, there are too many variables in a quarter mile run to say that the tuner is the reason for the slower ET. The most accurate way to see how the tuner affected your truck would have been to do a stock run then load the tune and do another run as soon as you can. Thats the only way to cut out MOST variables but not all.
Third, your not even data logging to see what your truck is doing. Stop flaming and please do some reading. Dig through this forum or even try out a few of the ram forums, there is a wealth of information waiting for you.
I had a 2012 ram also, and after data logging I realized the 93 tune was giving me too much knock retard due to the crappy gas stations I was using. I tested a few others and found a good one, then got a custom tune for my truck and it ran perfect. Much stronger than it did stock.
I dont always agree with the way Diablo does business either but they have an excellent product.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
This is not a flame it just that facts.
1. I ran the truck before buying the tuner (read the the post) the best et was 14.98
2. installed the 87 tune using 93 octane and it ran 15.98
3. installed the 91 tune same day same fuel went slightly faster again not as fast as the factory tune
4. went to restore factory back up got error code can't do, along with vehicle not starting
5. it finally started decided not to mess with it until I got home
6. at home it said unit wasn't married
7. after marrying loaded 91 tune fired it up let it run for awhile
8. restored factory back up turned off and traction control was still disabled as I said before it took about three restarts before it cleared.
9.So you tell me where the flame is ... i'm speaking the facts
a canned tune is a canned tune and should be ready to go right out of the can.
10. i'll sell this to anyone for 500.00 and it's only two weeks old.
1. I ran the truck before buying the tuner (read the the post) the best et was 14.98
2. installed the 87 tune using 93 octane and it ran 15.98
3. installed the 91 tune same day same fuel went slightly faster again not as fast as the factory tune
4. went to restore factory back up got error code can't do, along with vehicle not starting
5. it finally started decided not to mess with it until I got home
6. at home it said unit wasn't married
7. after marrying loaded 91 tune fired it up let it run for awhile
8. restored factory back up turned off and traction control was still disabled as I said before it took about three restarts before it cleared.
9.So you tell me where the flame is ... i'm speaking the facts
a canned tune is a canned tune and should be ready to go right out of the can.
10. i'll sell this to anyone for 500.00 and it's only two weeks old.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
1, 2 and 3. You are comparing your best time against 1 run? I can run a 5.2 0-60 one day and the next day hit a 5.8. Like I said, unless it was done the same day under the same conditions thats not an accurate way to judge. It would have been interesting to see what your time would have been that day if you were able to revert to stock.hitecmal wrote:This is not a flame it just that facts.
1. I ran the truck before buying the tuner (read the the post) the best et was 14.98
2. installed the 87 tune using 93 octane and it ran 15.98
3. installed the 91 tune same day same fuel went slightly faster again not as fast as the factory tune
4. went to restore factory back up got error code can't do, along with vehicle not starting
5. it finally started decided not to mess with it until I got home
6. at home it said unit wasn't married
7. after marrying loaded 91 tune fired it up let it run for awhile
8. restored factory back up turned off and traction control was still disabled as I said before it took about three restarts before it cleared.
9.So you tell me where the flame is ... i'm speaking the facts
a canned tune is a canned tune and should be ready to go right out of the can.
10. i'll sell this to anyone for 500.00 and it's only two weeks old.
4, 5, 6, 7, 8. Thats unfortunate, but all technology has issues every once in a while. These things have been known to have a few glitches but they are hacking into an encrypted computer so its not going to be 100% every time (even more so on the 12 rams from my experience). Glad you were able to fix it, did you try turning traction control back on using quick adjust?
9. This is not for someone who drag races as it has way too many glitches. Is it true you can return this turner with in a certain amount of time for a refund? Are you trying to tell me that the stock tune is faster then the 87 tune? No matter what the tune they all were slower than the stock tune. Consistency was out the door. I guess that's why they don't advertise drag strip comparison times.
Stating facts is fine, coming to a forum for help was smart. But the way you threw in your opinions can be (and was) taken as flaming.
10. If I didnt already have one for each car I would take you up on that offer.
Have you had a chance to monitor your KR yet? Like I said I didnt have much luck with the canned tunes either but the custom tune really woke the truck up. Moving from a 12 ram to a 13 challenger it makes it very clear that although it is a 390 hp truck, its still a truck and its not built to be a dragster. I put a lot of $ into my truck, even went as far as a 2800 stall converter, but even after dropping over $2k on the ram, the stock challenger walks all over it.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
hitecmal wrote:This is not a flame it just that facts.
1. I ran the truck before buying the tuner (read the the post) the best et was 14.98
2. installed the 87 tune using 93 octane and it ran 15.98
3. installed the 91 tune same day same fuel went slightly faster again not as fast as the factory tune
4. went to restore factory back up got error code can't do, along with vehicle not starting
5. it finally started decided not to mess with it until I got home
6. at home it said unit wasn't married
7. after marrying loaded 91 tune fired it up let it run for awhile
8. restored factory back up turned off and traction control was still disabled as I said before it took about three restarts before it cleared.
9.So you tell me where the flame is ... i'm speaking the facts
a canned tune is a canned tune and should be ready to go right out of the can.
10. i'll sell this to anyone for 500.00 and it's only two weeks old.
Did you update it before you got to playing with it?
Now I know with my car you should reset the pcm after you install a tune so the vehicle can relearn. if you loaded these tunes right at the track well....
and that unmarry part sounds like something wasn't right from the get go.
i wasn't that impressed with it either at 1st (at the track anyways) but I was at a track I had never been too before and the track was slick from all the big boys there, NOT avoiding water boxes with street tires didn't help either (traction). I know my car is faster with it though.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
My was faster stock to. All done on the same day to. Contacted diablo sport and said it looked good. Idk how it can look good if your running slower times 
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
Larry,
What are your ST and LT knock numbers? Most of the time the people who say its going slower havent noticed that they are getting increased knock (including myself when I first bought the tuner).
My problem ended up being bad gas. Tested out different stations and Chevron ended up being the best where im at.
What are your ST and LT knock numbers? Most of the time the people who say its going slower havent noticed that they are getting increased knock (including myself when I first bought the tuner).
My problem ended up being bad gas. Tested out different stations and Chevron ended up being the best where im at.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
I'm gonna sell it however I installed the a week before I raced it. I only change it after the 2nd time shot.. I would like to know how u reset the pcm after installing the tune?
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
Dont fully understand what your saying here.
If you have given up on tuning and want to sell it then you have to "unmarry" or load your stock tune back.
As far as resetting the PCM you could pull the #2 fuse as many have done.
Tip #39 on this page
http://www.sequentialtaillights.com/dod ... Tricks.htm
If you have given up on tuning and want to sell it then you have to "unmarry" or load your stock tune back.
As far as resetting the PCM you could pull the #2 fuse as many have done.
Tip #39 on this page
http://www.sequentialtaillights.com/dod ... Tricks.htm
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
I'ts for sale but I still have it so i'm gonna try it again to see what happens i'm gonna use sunoco 93 oct this time, reset the pcm and see what happens.
BTW I ran the ram sat. without the tuner staging deep it was back to normal 15.34 for those who don't know staging deep adds 2 tenths to your et which means true et was 15.14 in 89 degree heat.
BTW I ran the ram sat. without the tuner staging deep it was back to normal 15.34 for those who don't know staging deep adds 2 tenths to your et which means true et was 15.14 in 89 degree heat.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
Again,
You should log the ST and LT knock retard, even with the new gas. Its the best way to find out who has the highest quality gas around your area.
You should log the ST and LT knock retard, even with the new gas. Its the best way to find out who has the highest quality gas around your area.
Re: this sat 1st time time to track with a diablo
Well I may keep it but i'm gonna need alittle visual help to make it work what I mean by that is help in learning how to read and record a log. So if there is a member in the jacksonville fl area that can help send me a pm thx.