Avenger R/T software

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Avenger R/T software

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Is there gonna be a predator for the 2008 dodge avenger R/T 3.5l at all...
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Maybe.....
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See future product request section....
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The avenger r/t should have a predator cause this car is quick and needs to be tuned better so it can be even quicker...
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There are many, many cars that are quicker then the Avenger, sell larger numbers then the Avenger, have far more potential then the Avenger and need tuning. The GM 3800 cars, both N/A and Supercharged, come to mind, as well as the newer 3600 based ones, and even the Ecotechs. DiabloSport needs to think about the bottom line, and work on the high profit items, not creating products for every car out there.

Hell, if they're gonna bother with doing a Predator for the Avenger, then may as well do one for the Taurus, or the LaCrosse.
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Mike_Levy wrote:There are many, many cars that are quicker then the Avenger, sell larger numbers then the Avenger, have far more potential then the Avenger and need tuning. The GM 3800 cars, both N/A and Supercharged, come to mind, as well as the newer 3600 based ones, and even the Ecotechs. DiabloSport needs to think about the bottom line, and work on the high profit items, not creating products for every car out there.

Hell, if they're gonna bother with doing a Predator for the Avenger, then may as well do one for the Taurus, or the LaCrosse.
That is a damn good point and something we look at closely (or at least try to).
The GM 3800's are on the list (actually have been on my personal list for quite some time) as well as the newer GM's. They required a re-write to some of our source code, but that is nearing completion.
We are actively looking for more people to expand our product development teams so we can get more vehicle coverage at a quicker pace.

Now the Avenger is also something we looked at. What typically happens is we'll be writing code to support car X. We'll also look at similar vehicles to see how much extra work it takes to implement car Y at the same time. The majority of the Avengers share the same code as a another vehicle we have done so to implement those isn't really all that much work.
Yes, Avenger support is coming.
The bottleneck usually comes down to resources. Once we get that limitation removed, vehicle coverage is going to explode.
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Mike_Levy wrote:There are many, many cars that are quicker then the Avenger, sell larger numbers then the Avenger, have far more potential then the Avenger and need tuning. The GM 3800 cars, both N/A and Supercharged, come to mind, as well as the newer 3600 based ones, and even the Ecotechs. DiabloSport needs to think about the bottom line, and work on the high profit items, not creating products for every car out there.

Hell, if they're gonna bother with doing a Predator for the Avenger, then may as well do one for the Taurus, or the LaCrosse.
Dont be an ass about it, i was just saying the demand is there with the avenger tuner. Well i guess the avenger r/t is doing well cause there is gonna be a supercharger for it in august....well i guess its just a taurus lol.....the avenger is a quick car,slap on new software and SC , u got a nice fast ride...so dont even bother posting that crap
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Mike_Levy wrote:There are many, many cars that are quicker then the Avenger, sell larger numbers then the Avenger, have far more potential then the Avenger and need tuning.
Umm like what? Imports? :shock:
Mike_Levy wrote:Hell, if they're gonna bother with doing a Predator for the Avenger, then may as well do one for the Taurus, or the LaCrosse.
Since you probably never drove an avenger, you probably are just going off critic reviews which would make your point invalid. Your 2 horrible comparisons are not capable of being an auto-x car and I would laugh if I seen a luxury sedan take the track. The avenger R/T on the other hand is go figure, road / track version, but since you know everything, I am sure you would know that. So what can you compare to the avenger that is NOT a luxury sedan since the avenger is NOT a luxury sedan...you should of known this from the reviews. :)
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No, I haven't driven one. I swore off Front drive when I sold my GTP (which BTW is a better car then, sold many more then, and obviously have more potential then, the Avenger). I have ridden in one, and have friends at the rental lots. They hate them, I wasn't impressed on my ride.

And don't feed me the R/T, road/track bullshit. Remember the Neon R/T? How about the Dakota R/T? The Caravan R/T? R/T means nothing these days. Same shit as Chevy and the SS's.
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Mike_Levy wrote: Remember the Neon R/T?
ROFL....you have a point there!!
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Mike_Levy wrote:No, I haven't driven one. I swore off Front drive when I sold my GTP (which BTW is a better car then, sold many more then, and obviously have more potential then, the Avenger). I have ridden in one, and have friends at the rental lots. They hate them, I wasn't impressed on my ride.
Ok you are just a single minded person (or work for GM) that only cherishes GM products obviously so why are you even posting in this thread? Also the fleet avengers are intended to be garbage and are even more basic than the low trim line smart one.

I have not bashed any GM product as I do like some of their products and I think the G8 will be unstoppable, but that is just my opinion.

But now to slap you with some reality figures. The GTP is a garbage vehicle (why do you think they stopped making them?) and I have had this discussion with many GM asshats such as yourself. These are the stats. How is a SUPERCHARGED version barely getting any extra HP than the avenger considered a "better" car, unless being the asshat you are, are comparing a V8 to a V6 in which you are definitely a real man of genious. Bullet is working on getting a supercharger for the Avenger, which is going to easily be pushing 400+HP. Yet, here's your beloved GTP.

Pontiac Grand Prix GTP 'Comp G' - V6 3.8L supercharged (260 hp) 4A
Performance
0 - 60 Time
7.12

(seconds) 1/4 Mile Time
15.47

(seconds) 1/4 Mile Speed
93.40

Woohoo, lot's of potential there. I didn't even get into weight aspects, gear ratios, differentials or compression ratios. And you are definitely being very uneducated about this whole discussion as you are comparing a Neon R/T to what? Let me guess, some 6cyl or 8cyl car. And you still have not come up with a good CURRENT comparison for the avenger, only a car that existed previously. Sure I can do the same thing but I have more common sense to not try to compare vehicles that don't exist anymore to current models or are at least in the same class.

Next you will be telling me a 1988 Camaro is better than the avenger, of course it is genious, it's not a current model!
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OK....zeeman, I'd say your efforts here would be better spent in the future product request section where several threads are going on this subject.
We base much of what happens next on what happens in there, so lets make this happen!

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mikel wrote:OK....zeeman, I'd say your efforts here would be better spent in the future product request section where several threads are going on this subject.
We base much of what happens next on what happens in there, so lets make this happen!

Thanks
My apologies Mike. I just get irritated when dealing with one-way minded people :) But yes, we have been trying to recruit fellow avenger people to sign up and start demanding :D But I'm sure you guys will be making one since it's the same 3.5l chrysler uses in all of their lines....Just have to make some adjustments and who doesn't want to make some extra $$$ :D
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I only cherish GM vehicles huh? I'm driving a CHRYSLER 300 SRT8. So much for that theory.

The GTPs potential will NEVER, EVER be touched by the Avenger. There are half a dozen GTPs that run 10's and 2 in the 9's. How many Avengers can say that? None. The Avenger is joke. Always has been, since the first ones came out in 96.
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Mike_Levy wrote:I only cherish GM vehicles huh? I'm driving a CHRYSLER 300 SRT8. So much for that theory.

The GTPs potential will NEVER, EVER be touched by the Avenger. There are half a dozen GTPs that run 10's and 2 in the 9's. How many Avengers can say that? None. The Avenger is joke. Always has been, since the first ones came out in 96.
Ok I am done having a conversation with you. You are too intelligent for me.

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