engine light

[SRT8Tech]

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It will have 4128 stamped on it and on the other side it has Motorad stamped on it. It actually opens at 185* (or should). When you install it orient the bleeder hole up.

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Well no wonder mine rides at 185 and not 180 like I wanted.

[BOB51]

Ok, it coded this morning on my way to work. Who brought up the thought about it may be related to how far I travel to work? I do only travel about 5 miles to and from work. Mike and Bob, both running NAPA 165 with no bleeder hole. Both 5.7L Hemi's? So now I have two part numbers. The 4128 from auto zone and a NAPA 165. I'm I correct?

[BOB51]

I purchased the 4128 from Autozone and yes it is stamped 4128 and Motorad. This is not the thermostat that was given to me by the dealer when I purchased the Predator. He gave me something in a blue box, did not see a manufacture name. I'll give this one a try.

[Quick]

Ok, it coded this morning on my way to work. Who brought up the thought about it may be related to how far I travel to work? I do only travel about 5 miles to and from work.

That would be me. If the car doesn't get up over some temperature in a certain amount of time or maybe it's across a number of startup run cycles then it will throw a code. (at least this is the case for the 6.1L, I assume it would be the same for the 5.7L).

I forget if that temp is ~167* or ~176*. Something like that.
I forget what the period measure is. Could just be the amount of time after startup or it could be sort of damped by if it doesn't get over that temp in some time after startup AND that happens over some number of key cycles. Something like that.

So if you fire it up, drive 5 easy miles and turn it off you might not be warming it up over the threshold. Do that a few times and it throws the code. Watch your temp on the drive to work. Maybe try making sure it goes up to, or over 180* for a few days.

The other popular t-stat is the Jet one. The problem is unlikely to be with your t-stat unless it's stuck open and your car doesn't heat up from your commute as above. By the way, I think the Motorad is a "fail open" t-stat? still very unlikely.

If you're actually going to pull the t-stat again, buy your wife a meat thermometer and check both of them in a pot of water on the stove. You can kill 2 birds with one stone. Check your t-stats AND get your wife a present! Note: letting her see you checking the t-stats may ruin the moment a bit...

[Mike_Levy]

Mike and Bob, both running NAPA 165 with no bleeder hole. Both 5.7L Hemi's? So now I have two part numbers. The 4128 from auto zone and a NAPA 165. I'm I correct?

I have a 6.1 HEMI. The T-Stat is the same though.

[BOB51]

I took the old one old and put the new stat in. The old one was a 4128 and had the stamps, never checked before. So I will get the old one out of the trash and check it with a meat thermometer. See what I get for driving slow to work. lololol
Will the predator clear that code that looks like a gas pump?lololl
Thanks

[bob34787]

5.7 and yea those are the correct numbers for both engines. You can also use a stant which is what I am using, car never runs over 183

[BOB51]

Ok....since I have put the new stat in it has not coded once. It must have been the stat. I will never assume again that just because someone gave me a mod that the part is correct and is fuctioning properly.
Lesson Learned

[johan]

You know what assumptions are right, The mother of ALL f*** up's.
We all have to learn that the hard way for some weird reason.

[LDVnMN]

Hello all,

(Plz excuse the reteric - I'm gettin' to be an old fogie - owned predator for a while now - just posting)

I looked for this in my owners manual (of course it ain't there/can't find it).

"Hold both lower, inside buttons down at the same time for about 8 seconds. "

First time I've seen this!!! (kewl/cool) . . . Is this capability from Daimler or DiabloSport??? In particular I'd like to know about the MPG/PERFORMANCE screen w/the +/- graph(and others). Where is there/even doc on all this?

I will rant and say it would be great if you guys/gals had a glossery "sticky" explaining all the acronims(etc.). For a while I thought TCM had to do with Throttle Control Module.

Anyway - '94 Z-28 (awaiting playtoy status in 3rd stall - HPtec - liked it, but Predator is much-much better) '07 Charger R/T AWD(nMN).

LDV

[Quick]

"Hold both lower, inside buttons down at the same time for about 8 seconds. "

First time I've seen this!!! (kewl/cool) . . . Is this capability from Daimler or DiabloSport???

Daimler. It's a set of (not so secret) diagnostic screens that they left in there sort of on purpose for you. That's why they're not in the manual.

[jtfinklea]

LDVnMN

Here is link to a forum that I found, it should answer all your questions.

http://www.300cforums.com/forums/genera ... easter+egg

Not sure why it's call the easter egg, The Cluster!!!

[LDVnMN]

Thanks guys -

Jeff - printed your URL - am headed out to the garage to check this out. I would guess they call it an 'easter egg' because a kid when finding one gets really excited - but that's just a guess.

Quick - you don't suppose there's a govt database somewhere keepin' track of everyone who's playin' with all these buttons, do ya'?

BTW - I have worked with computers (IBM Mainframes - they used to be called - now Enterprize Servers) for ~30 years now. Anyway - often - after a bad day @ work - I am very averse to messing with the home one and replying to anything could take awhile - if so - no offence intended

Thanks for the help & take care,

LDV

[Quick]

Quick - you don't suppose there's a govt database somewhere keepin' track of everyone who's playin' with all these buttons, do ya'?

haha, I don't think so. I think the SRT engineers put them in there for convenient diagnostics and then thought you'd enjoy/appreciate them so they didn't take them out.

BTW - I have worked with computers (IBM Mainframes - they used to be called - now Enterprize Servers) for ~30 years now. Anyway - often - after a bad day @ work - I am very averse to messing with the home one and replying to anything could take awhile - if so - no offence intended

You mean like the IBM 360's? but then we upgraded to one of those really large Amdahl's. Haha, card decks and 6' tall tape decks.

[LDVnMN]

You mean like the IBM 360's? but then we upgraded to one of those really large Amdahl's. Haha, card decks and 6' tall tape decks.

Yeah - System 360 - that was a ways back - NTSU - a long time ago - the machines I work with now are their great, great great, ... grandchildren. Now-a-days IBM calls them System/z - up to 64 processors - 1.5 terabytes of ram - 64 bit addressing - things have come a long way. Dr. Amdahl was one of the initial designers of the 360. Tape now "appears" to the system to be tape (everything is virtualized) but they aren't, it's all a bunch of small hard drives (with really big capacity) and if you really want tape, you can have that on the back end - you just have to define it that way - but the modern day 8-tracks (that's what they still resemble) hold ~500 gig.

Quick.

I have dealt with "the Mainframe is goin' away" syndrome for over 15 years now. Daily at work I see distributed servers crash all over all the time and we just keep on runnin' and runnin' on. We re-boot once a year - when the time goes back.

Sorry, this is not the place - nor the time - sorry - LDV