Class Action Lawsuit

[Dissatisfied]

Normally I just read these forums hoping for some help from Diablosport. After investing $800 on a 7142 and a 7165 programmer, I am still waiting for programs that work without issues.
The 7142 for my 03 Cobra pegs the wideband rich from 3500 RPM to redline, I was promised an update, well about a year later Diablosport came out with one that says "Release 01 (current) (NOTE ONLY FOR NEW PRODUCTION or U7000 converted Predators )" and my 7142 will not support the new program because it was a early production (blue case) model.
The 7165 is for my 2007 F350 6.0 liter, programs R10, R13, R17, R19, R20, and now R03 and still problems, need I say more?
My brother bought a 7165 for his 2005 6.0 liter and he has had alot of warranty work done on head gaskets, a new turbo, and EGR cooler.
My Dad bought a 7160 for his 2003 6.0 liter and had soot buildup in the overflow tank and puked alot of antifreeze before he sold the truck.

So I am asking if anyone is interested in joining a "CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT", if so post a reply to this thread.
Thanks

[Excursionist]

Normally I just read these forums hoping for some help from Diablosport. After investing $800 on a 7142 and a 7165 programmer, I am still waiting for programs that work without issues.
The 7142 for my 03 Cobra pegs the wideband rich from 3500 RPM to redline, I was promised an update, well about a year later Diablosport came out with one that says "Release 01 (current) (NOTE ONLY FOR NEW PRODUCTION or U7000 converted Predators )" and my 7142 will not support the new program because it was a early production (blue case) model.
The 7165 is for my 2007 F350 6.0 liter, programs R10, R13, R17, R19, R20, and now R03 and still problems, need I say more?
My brother bought a 7165 for his 2005 6.0 liter and he has had alot of warranty work done on head gaskets, a new turbo, and EGR cooler.
My Dad bought a 7160 for his 2003 6.0 liter and had soot buildup in the overflow tank and puked alot of antifreeze before he sold the truck.

So I am asking if anyone is interested in joining a "CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT", if so post a reply to this thread.
Thanks

I'm In.

I had my PCM, oil pump and all my theft system components replaced in November 2007 4 months after downloading the new r19dz tune. Wish I had kept my original tune!! At least with it the only problem was a bypassed factory anti theft system.

I wonder if theres Ulterior motives to this bypass.

If I had a Diablo sticker in my window would a carjacker see it as a personal Invite?

Is Diablo behind a huge conspiracy for car thefts?


See my poll on my post dated 4/15/08.

Please answer it I am curious how many are experiencing factory theft light flashing issues after startup.

[Excursionist]

A class action suit pertaining to what exactly? On what grounds do you base it?

[mikel]

Does anyone realize if the Tuner does not show your VIN that the program written is not specifically for your vehicles drivetrain. Its a generic. The other good programmers on the market tune specifically to your vehicle. Time to change.

As I explained in your other thread, the Ford PCMs do not store the VIN, so all you can see there is a bunch of FFFFFs.
How can they tune for the VIN if they cannot even read it off the PCM??

[Excursionist]

Thank you Mike I will call Ford about the Vin being stored in the PCM. Seems like it should be there for vehicle specific tuning. How can we get a specific tune then?

[kmacicek]

my vin shows up my sct tuner,and i did not enter it, it was read off of the pcm.

[Dissatisfied]

So I am asking if anyone is interested in joining a "CLASS ACTION LAWSUIT", if so post a reply to this thread.
Thanks

[PSDPlayer]

Does anyone realize if the Tuner does not show your VIN that the program written is not specifically for your vehicles drivetrain. Its a generic. The other good programmers on the market tune specifically to your vehicle. Time to change.

The VIN has nothing to do with tuning the truck. The File loaded into the PCM has a file name. Hell you have even posted it in your signature. TNAA7Y5. What do you think that is? Thats the file specifically for your year Excursion. The other "good" tuners you speak of rely on the same information from your TNAA7Y5. If you can tell me why this VIN information is so pertinent I would love to know. Here is what it means:

Vehicle Identification Number (VIN)

World Manufacturer Identifier (WMI)

The first three vehicle identification number (VIN) positions are the world manufacturer code.

1FD — Ford Motor Company, USA, incomplete vehicle
1FT — Ford Motor Company, USA, truck, completed vehicle
3FT — Ford Motor Company, Mexico, completed vehicle
Brake Type and Gross Vehicle Weight Rating (GVWR)

The fourth VIN position is the vehicle brake type and GVWR code (all vehicles use hydraulic brakes).

N — 8,501-9,000 pounds GVWR with driver and front passenger air bags
S — 9,001-10,000 pounds GVWR with driver and front passenger air bags
W — 10,001-14,000 pounds GVWR with driver and front passenger air bags
Vehicle Line, Series and Body Type

Positions 5 through 7 indicate vehicle line, series and body type.

F20 — F-250, Regular Cab, 4x2, single rear wheels
F21 — F-250, Regular Cab, 4x4, single rear wheels
F30 — F-350, Regular Cab, 4x2, single rear wheels
F31 — F-350, Regular Cab, 4x4, single rear wheels
F32 — F-350, Regular Cab, 4x2, dual rear wheels
F33 — F-350, Regular Cab, 4x4, dual rear wheels
F34 — F-350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, single rear wheels
F35 — F-350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, single rear wheels
F36 — F-350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
F37 — F-350, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
F46 — F-450, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
F47 — F-450, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
F56 — F-550, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
F57 — F-550, Regular Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
W20 — F-250, Crew Cab, 4x2, single rear wheels
W21 — F-250, Crew Cab, 4x4, single rear wheels
W30 — F-350, Crew Cab, 4x2, single rear wheels
W31 — F-350, Crew Cab, 4x4, single rear wheels
W32 — F-350, Crew Cab, 4x2, dual rear wheels
W33 — F-350, Crew Cab, 4x4, dual rear wheels
W34 — F-350, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, single rear wheels
W35 — F-350, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, single rear wheels
W36 — F-350, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
W37 — F-350, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
W46 — F-450, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
W47 — F-450, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
W56 — F-550, Crew Cab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
W57 — F-550, Crew Cab, (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
X20 — F-250, SuperCab, 4x2, single rear wheels
X21 — F-250, SuperCab, 4x4, single rear wheels
X30 — F-350, SuperCab, 4x2, single rear wheels
X31 — F-350, SuperCab, 4x4, single rear wheels
X32 — F-350, SuperCab, 4x2, dual rear wheels
X33 — F-350, SuperCab, 4x4, dual rear wheels
X34 — F-350, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, single rear wheels
X35 — F-350, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, single rear wheels
X36 — F-350, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
X37 — F-350, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
X46 — F-450, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
X47 — F-450, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
X56 — F-550, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x2, dual rear wheels
X57 — F-550, SuperCab (Chassis Cab), 4x4, dual rear wheels
Engine Code

The eighth VIN position is the engine displacement and number of cylinders.

L — 5.4L, Modular, SOHC, EFI, V8, gas
P — 6.0L, OHV, DI Turbo, V8, Diesel
S — 6.8L, SOHC, EFI, V10, gas
V — 6.8L, 3V, EFI, V10, gas
Check Digit Code

The ninth VIN position is a government assigned, computer-generated check digit.

Model Year Code

The tenth VIN position is the model year code.

5 — 2005
Assembly Plant Code

The eleventh VIN position is the assembly plant code.

E — Kentucky Truck (Jefferson County, Kentucky)
M — Cuautitlan (Cuautitlan, Mexico)
Sequential Build Code

The last six VIN positions are an alphanumeric code for the vehicle build sequence. This is also the vehicle serial and warranty number.

A00001-F99999 — Ford Division