Issue returning to stock after 93octane tune flash

[jsachnet]

I have a 2003 Dodge Neon SRT4 with a stage 1 pcm. CAL ID 04510055AD. I successfully flashed my pcm with the 93octane tune but when I returned it to stock it replaced my CAL ID with this one 04510055AC. Now this may not seem like a huge issue to some but I have other tuning software that I use and because the predator changed my CAL ID I can no longer use my other software.

I noticed that the predator has an option to force a calibration update but it seems to require a certain key sequence to use it. Please help me get my original CAL ID back!!!

When I flashed my pcm the first time I was using 9r12 or 9r13 firmware. I am now using the most current firmware 9r17.

[rfoker]

That is why. The curent software is what changed your Calid ID. My suggestion is to try and get the older version downloaded if possible and this should return your ID back to AD.
This is my assumption as it seems the most logical. Updates are done by manufacturers all the time and Diablo uses the latest updates available.

It's amazing that 32 people clicked on this thread and had nothing to say????

[jsachnet]

Considering that I flashed and returned my pcm back to stock using the 9r12 or 9r13 firmware, and never switched firmware in between the initial flash and return to stock, cannot make it related to the new firmware. I only updated to try and force it to give me the newest version of the factory code, which is 04510055AE now. I only hope that somehow Diablo can give me a file that will allow me to force update back to 04510055AD.

[Quick]

I'm confused.
The cal IDs go in order right? AC is older than AD which is older than AE?

When you hook up the predator it will check to see if the cal ID matches for the CROM version you have.
You have to match before you can even take the original backup. So I don't see anyway you could end up with an older cal ID.
What were the steps and the cal IDs you had along the way?
Sounds like you were originally using 9r12 or 13. Did you have to update the Cal ID before you used that? what was it?
Then you restored the original backup and updated the CROM on the predator.
Did it require the car to be cal updated when you hooked it up with 9r17 before taking the original backup?

[jsachnet]

Here is how it went down...

Chrysler CAL IDs superceede the previous letter, so 04510055AC is superceeded by 04510055AD and 04510055AD is superceeded by 04510055AE and so on....

1. I bought my predator around October/September of 2008 from Rage-Tek.
2. Took it out of the box and hooked it up to my car, it notified my that my CAL ID was not supported and that I needed to update the predator to support the CAL ID. The CAL ID was 04510055AD at that time.
3. I update the predator to what I think was 9r12 or 9r13 from an unknown version that it came with from Diablo.
4. I hook it back to the car and it allows me to flash the 93 Octane Tune
4. The Tune makes my car run basically like crap so I return it back to stock through the predator the very next day.
5. I hook my other tool up and I find out that the CAL ID is now 04510055AC when I started the day earlier with 04510055AD.
6. I had to put everything on hold because I got orders to move so car goes untouched for a few months.
7. I get everything settled at the new place and see that Diablo released a new firmware 9r17. So I update my predator hoping that it will push 04510055AD to my pcm but it does not.

I have not used my other tool on the pcm prior to using the predator so the other tool did not cause this. I have not been able to use my other tool on the pcm because of this.

[Quick]

Well, that part is clear now.

[jsachnet]

Tuesday bump

[mikel]

What is the error message you are getting?

[jsachnet]

I don't get any error messages from the Predator. It works with either 04510055AC or 04510055AD. My issue is that I started with 04510055AD and the predator replaced it with 04510055AC. I need 04510055AD back.

[mikel]

OK, then I have to ask, why?

[jsachnet]

Not to be rude but I have already stated why. But here it is again.

1: At no time did the predator notify me that it would change my cal id and not return it back to stock cal id.
2. Not really relevant, but I have another tool that does not support the cal id the predator changed to.



I just want my pcm restored to the original state that it was before using the predator on it.

[jsachnet]

Wednesday

[mikel]

Well, if the Predator put you on that calibration, it is what is needed for your year/make/model.

We have never hid the fact that we may change your PCMs calid, and I dont see any other way for you to update the calid other than a visit to a dealer.

[jsachnet]

When I hooked my predator up to the car it shows you a notice that you must agree to before flashing. I did not see anything about the predator updating my base flash to a more preferable one and I also did not see anything that said restoring to stock does not actually mean you will be restored to original state either.

I am not saying Diablosport is hiding things but I do believe that return to stock should do exactly that and that if it is is going to update your base flash that you should be notified of this in the predator and made to agree to it also.

I will gladly send you my pcm so you can place the original stock flash, I will even pay for shipping both ways, but how can Diablo make such a request on me to have a dealer reflash my pcm to stock when your product caused this. I would also gladly have the dealer reflash my pcm of Diablo pays for it which Dodge Service Department says will cost $140.

I fully expect Diablo to respond with a portion of your terms of service stating why they are not responsible or cannot be expected to fix this. But I hope I am wrong, because I think Diablo has the best tools on the market for my platform right now and it would be a shame not to back up the product and help me rectify this situation.

[jsachnet]

Thursday