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On the fly tuning?

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:11 pm
by 9nightmare4
Will you be able to do on the fly tuning? Not like the Predator where you have to plug it in and do that whole process when changing from tune to tune.

RE: On the fly tuning?

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 10:52 pm
by Mike_Levy
Nope, the PCM doesn't work like that. A restart is needed for all changes. The Trinity will always be plugged in, so you can skip that step.

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:12 pm
by 9nightmare4
so all you got to do is click on your tune and go or do you still need to shut down the car to reset the settings?

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 11:28 pm
by Mike_Levy
More then likely you'll have to shut it down.

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 8:54 am
by neonhomer
IIRC, you have to have the vehicle shut down like the Predator. However, the hardware should allow faster write times.

Trust me, this thing is bad ass.... Got to see a sneak peek at it and it is awesome!

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:05 pm
by 9nightmare4
So what about this tuning companies that do this mail order tunes for your Predator will this tunes be able to upload to the Trinity? thanks for all the info guys

Posted: Fri Dec 26, 2008 12:12 pm
by neonhomer
AFAIK, any custom tune for the CROM type Predator should work with Trinity.

Don't hold me to that though.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:16 am
by GRI
that stinks. you would think you would be able to tune on the fly. the bully dog connects to the obd2 port and can switch on the fly. so it can be done.
that is a very annoying feature

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:01 pm
by neonhomer
I think it has a lot to do with how the tools write to the PCM.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 9:07 pm
by GRI
yes but to claim to be the most advanced tuner on the market and not be able tune on the fly is a short coming. Smarty pod, bully dog and others can on the fly. it would be ashame not to be able to with this. Dont get me wrong this thing looks like a wicked programmer.

Posted: Thu Jan 22, 2009 11:26 pm
by Mike_Levy
Certain things can be changed on the fly, like boost on a vehicle with an electronic controller. Otherthings require a complete rewrite, which nobody can do without a restart because its not possible.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:02 am
by GRI
how does smarty pod and bully dog change the HP settings on the fly? they both plug into the obd2 port?

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:09 am
by Mike_Levy
Their HP settings are changed by varying boost. More boost means more power.

Unless they aren't writing anything to the PCM and are instead intercepting the data and changing it. Thats a very crude way of tuning though that I'd think they wouldn't be doing.

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 12:26 am
by GRI
I disagree with that. with the hp ratings they are issuing and most people running stock turbos you run out of power as your turbo isnt rated for such high boost.
I dont know how they do it but this is from their site (smarty)
Power on Demand
100 power levels selectable in just one second during the
driving!
It's easy: just type the preferred power level directly on Smarty
keyboard, from 00 to 99. That's all!
For security reason, the truck waits that the throttle is released
before applying the new power level.

not knocking the trinity as it is looking like the programmer to beat right now but power on demand is what will sell more .

Posted: Fri Jan 23, 2009 9:48 am
by mikel
Well, FWIW, the Trinity will be able to control our Extreme Power Pucks on the fly on Diesel applications so you will have some on-the-fly adjustability right through the screen on your Trinity.