Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
Moderator: mikel
Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
Hi ..
Mikel
I did a comparison of the acceleration from 0 - 60 and 0 - 100 , and quarter mile before & after tuning
But the results were very close in some cases be the same.
While others found better acceleration with the device.
I have also found (ST knock = 4) at 1500 - 2200 but no (LT = 0) this with 93 oct
I download 91 but the results were worse , also found (ST knock = 4)
Please help me to find the problem and get the best acceleration.
Dodge CHARGER R/T 2011
Mikel
I did a comparison of the acceleration from 0 - 60 and 0 - 100 , and quarter mile before & after tuning
But the results were very close in some cases be the same.
While others found better acceleration with the device.
I have also found (ST knock = 4) at 1500 - 2200 but no (LT = 0) this with 93 oct
I download 91 but the results were worse , also found (ST knock = 4)
Please help me to find the problem and get the best acceleration.
Dodge CHARGER R/T 2011
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Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
does the vehicle not 'feel' better?
does it have a traction issue now that the tunes are installed?
does it have a traction issue now that the tunes are installed?
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Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
mikel wrote:does the vehicle not 'feel' better?
I feel that the vehicle has become better . The only response
But the numbers say not .
I'm not sure of that .. What do you mean ... I can not find this problem before or aftermikel wrote:does it have a traction issue now that the tunes are installed?
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
He means, do you have more wheel spin now. Are you finding it harder to get traction from the rear tires, especially from a standing stop...
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Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
PerfRacer wrote:He means, do you have more wheel spin now. Are you finding it harder to get traction from the rear tires, especially from a standing stop...
I think there is no difference
Because I am in both ( befor - after ) tried to avoid wheel spin
I did not even hear the sound of tires. In each test .
Unfortunately results very close. Supposed to get better results. At least in the quarter-mile tests
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
I am definitely getting more wheelspin with the Perf 93 tune loaded. That just means the tune is doing what it's supposed to.
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
^^ Me too! A ton more wheelspin!!!! 
2012 R/T Max - DS Trinity 93 Oct tune; LMI Frankentake IV; Mid-Muffler delete; BT Catch Can; 30% tint fronts, 20% back and rear; Escort Passport 9500 ix; TX Toll Tag <--- LOL! ;-P
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
BdyGrd wrote:^^ Me too! A ton more wheelspin!!!!
OK
What about acceleration !!
Do you tried .... before and after to see how much improvement after tuning
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
Supposed to get better acceleration, under the same conditions
Where is the problem ... !!
Where is the problem ... !!
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
The problem, from my perspective is the tires and the road surface. Everyone posting before and after 0-60 or 1/4 mile times will have different results based on all of the conditions and variables that apply to their car and to where they are located. For example: Let's say I was logging a 0-60 mph time of 6.0 seconds prior to my performance tune, but now I am logging a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds. On the after the tune run, I felt as if the car had much more wheelspin on my typical launch. This would most likely be caused by the added torque and horsepower provided by the tune. The tires are not able to grab the road and therefore you lose time trying to get traction. This kills your 0-60 time. So in this situation I would say "Yes!!!! It is much faster, but I need to figure out how to get more traction with this added power!!" Not a bad situation to be in, in my opinion. You should also be able to feel that the car seems faster at other speeds, such as, 35mph to 75 mph, or 60mph to 80mph, etc. I definitely have better performance from my Trinity, at any speed.
Hope this helps, as it applies to your situation. If not, I will bug out and let Diablosport reply.
Hope this helps, as it applies to your situation. If not, I will bug out and let Diablosport reply.
2012 R/T Max - DS Trinity 93 Oct tune; LMI Frankentake IV; Mid-Muffler delete; BT Catch Can; 30% tint fronts, 20% back and rear; Escort Passport 9500 ix; TX Toll Tag <--- LOL! ;-P
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
BdyGrd wrote:The problem, from my perspective is the tires and the road surface. Everyone posting before and after 0-60 or 1/4 mile times will have different results based on all of the conditions and variables that apply to their car and to where they are located. For example: Let's say I was logging a 0-60 mph time of 6.0 seconds prior to my performance tune, but now I am logging a 0-60 time of 6.3 seconds. On the after the tune run, I felt as if the car had much more wheelspin on my typical launch. This would most likely be caused by the added torque and horsepower provided by the tune. The tires are not able to grab the road and therefore you lose time trying to get traction. This kills your 0-60 time. So in this situation I would say "Yes!!!! It is much faster, but I need to figure out how to get more traction with this added power!!" Not a bad situation to be in, in my opinion. You should also be able to feel that the car seems faster at other speeds, such as, 35mph to 75 mph, or 60mph to 80mph, etc. I definitely have better performance from my Trinity, at any speed.
Hope this helps, as it applies to your situation. If not, I will bug out and let Diablosport reply.
Thank you for your analysis,
I agree with you as you say, I hope that this will be the reason that prevented me from getting better acceleration, although I tried as much as possible to avoid wheelspin .
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Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
i can back this up as well. my truck feels no better at all. traction control off from a dead stop won't even chirp the tires. slightly disappointed. also i am getting st knock between 3.5 to 10 at times with the 91 octane tune. I even went as far to buy a custom tune and try it but still notice nothing. Only thing im loving is the mds disable and the ability to change shift points. I had a bullydog on my last ram and it was night and day was just hoping for the same results with the trinity.
Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
My truck feels faster / more powerful in every situation with the 93 tune.
Much more wheel spin. I have 4:10 gears on the R/T & couldn't barely chirp the tires prior to the tune, now I can create a nice cloud of Smoke if I am willing. Throttle response is also much improved.
I reverted back to stock on a dealer visit a few days ago after driving with the tune for 2 months & I did feel a huge difference (it sucked).

Much more wheel spin. I have 4:10 gears on the R/T & couldn't barely chirp the tires prior to the tune, now I can create a nice cloud of Smoke if I am willing. Throttle response is also much improved.
I reverted back to stock on a dealer visit a few days ago after driving with the tune for 2 months & I did feel a huge difference (it sucked).
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Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
I'm having the same issues with st knock. Mine got up to 14 degrees today on the way home. I'm running a basic 87 tune with 89oct with 1degree advanced for the tune to fuel difference. I have k&n CAI, magnaflow y pipe mod, spintech muffler with resonator delete, 180 thermostat. Truck has loads more power and runs like a raped ape. It scares me to see that much knock though. Going to try adding fuel tomorrow but I don't see that fixing 14 degrees of knock. Help please!!!


Re: Why I did not get better performance from Trinity
Unfortunately
last time I monitoring Knock I found strange numbers
ST = 6 and LT = 2 some times more
I switch to 91 tune, but I got the same result
I did not find such these numbers before .
last time I monitoring Knock I found strange numbers
ST = 6 and LT = 2 some times more
I switch to 91 tune, but I got the same result
I did not find such these numbers before .