Concerns !

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 1:58 pm

Well I finally got my predator programmer with the power puck,but after reading and researching I'm concerned I might mess my truck up with it. I have a superchip right now, and it helps a little, but it's really weak compared to other chips. I can run it on performance and there no slipping at all, but there's also not as much power compared to other chips, and there's no BLACK SMOKE. I have the quadzilla commander center to cover my guages,but from what I read it seems like I almost need a upgrade transmission kit for my 2006 5.9 diesel. I just don't want to put it on and my transmission goes. Could I get by with a upgrade torque converter ? Or what should I do to make my autmatic transmission stronger ? If you haven't figured it out I'm new to diesel's and I have a lot to learn. I probably should of never bought the kit, but I'm tired of my buddy puttting a woopin on me with his 02 dodge diesel with edge juice with attitude. I thought the superchip would take him, but it doesn't. I realize to play you got to pay, but is there any way around buying a whole new upgraded transmission ?

gsvaulter · Post by **gsvaulter** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:24 pm

The most common form of tranny upgrades are valve jobs and torque converters. it is my understading that they run around 500 bucks. i wouldn't know since i have the 5 speed. I would bet you could use the performance tune as long as you play the throttle. On my 03 i run the performance tune and use the puck as i need it. Occasionally i run the extreme when i know i'll be havin' fun but with no puck. The predator stack is gonna kill your superchips and it will also straight up murder the edge. Use the puff tunes for some low boost fooling and you'll have plenty of smoke. The combo is the best i have ever tried. I even like it better than my old smarty.

ropnjessi · Post by **ropnjessi** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:43 pm

I guess it depends on how hard you want to play for the tranny upgrade. Personally I would just do a built tranny. I broke my input shaft playing with the Extreme mode. I don't do boosted launches either.....

akdiesel wrote:Well I finally got my predator programmer with the power puck,but after reading and researching I'm concerned I might mess my truck up with it. I have a superchip right now, and it helps a little, but it's really weak compared to other chips. I can run it on performance and there no slipping at all, but there's also not as much power compared to other chips, and there's no BLACK SMOKE. I have the quadzilla commander center to cover my guages,but from what I read it seems like I almost need a upgrade transmission kit for my 2006 5.9 diesel. I just don't want to put it on and my transmission goes. Could I get by with a upgrade torque converter ? Or what should I do to make my autmatic transmission stronger ? If you haven't figured it out I'm new to diesel's and I have a lot to learn. I probably should of never bought the kit, but I'm tired of my buddy puttting a woopin on me with his 02 dodge diesel with edge juice with attitude. I thought the superchip would take him, but it doesn't. I realize to play you got to pay, but is there any way around buying a whole new upgraded transmission ?

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 4:14 pm

Do you think I could get by with a upgraded torque converter. Or do I need to do more. I have afe intake, and cat back 4inch MBRP dual exhaust right now for after market. I was hoping the super chip would bring power and smoke, but it brought a little power and hardly any smoke.

gsvaulter · Post by **gsvaulter** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:13 pm

It will definitely help. Play with it after the new TC and see how you like it. That upgrade will at least let you run the performance tune really hard, but maybe not the extreme. If the torque converter upgrade is all your going to do, then check with your nearest diablo dealer for custom tunes. They can alter any tune to your specs. But if you really wanna go big and run really hard, you'll end up needing input/output shafts and most importantly a valve body job. In the end, ropnjessi is right, the best way to go is the built tranny. My best advice right now is to load the performance tune and go drive it. play around and see if it slips. if not, load the extreme and go easy. just experiment. oh, and know that the torque in 3rd and 4th gear is what causes slips MOST of the time but not always.

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:25 pm

The problem is I'm going to want to romp on it, and I'm so new to this I'm not even sure how or where to look for these things to make my trainy stronger. How much are input and output shafts ? And what's a valve body job cost ? I know, I should probably stick to stock. I guess I'll do like you said and try it out on the performance tune, and start saving my pennys for the rest.

ropnjessi · Post by **ropnjessi** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:32 pm

After much reading I feel these guys are the best and affordable, Dave is the man you want to talk to. http://www.goerend.com/transmissions.php they have a excellent reputation in the tranny world. Be warned though he's a real hard guy to get a hold of but be persistant, its worth it.....

akdiesel wrote:The problem is I'm going to want to romp on it, and I'm so new to this I'm not even sure how or where to look for these things to make my trainy stronger. How much are input and output shafts ? And what's a valve body job cost ? I know, I should probably stick to stock. I guess I'll do like you said and try it out on the performance tune, and start saving my pennys for the rest.

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:57 pm

Thanks for the info. I'll try to give him a call next week. And I think I'll hold off on installing the program until I beef up my trainy. Thanks again.

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Thu Jan 03, 2008 8:30 pm

I was just curious when you say built trainy. Are you talking about buying whole new after market trainy or to just have it beefed up? Trainys are a little spendy,but if thats going to let me put it to the floor with out worrying, I guess I'll have to try to get one. Another problem is I live in Anchorage Alaska, so getting things like that shipped up here is probably as much as the item cost it's self. We have one good diesel store that I know of, but I don't think he carries any after market trainys. He doese carry torque converters and I think drive shafts. I guess I'll have to start searching and calling.

gsvaulter · Post by **gsvaulter** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:05 am

Man, you have much more discipline that I if you can hold of on the predator when its in your hand. lol. A built tranny is an aftermarket tranny that will hold all the power you can throw at it. Rated at very high hp/racing. Its the best upgrade by far as for an automatic. but very spendy. Theres a guy on cumminsforum.com that raves about a guy/shop in alaska for diesel performance. No idea where though. you might get an account there and do some searching. If i come across him I'll let you know. I would get an account anyways (free) just so you can gaze in aww over all the useful info.

Also, the valve body improves shift firmness and holding power of the tc. most guys only do TC's and valve bodys and have no problem holding 600+ hp. I've never price them, but heard they run no more than a grand.

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 1:34 am

Trust me it's really hard not to plug it in, but I know if I do I'm going to push the limits. Well if you come across that info that would be great. I'll have to do some research to see what I can find.You know? I actually might do a little testing tomorrow on the programmer, it's really started to get to me.

Dodgezilla · Post by **Dodgezilla** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:50 pm

When I needed a trans in my 03 I decided to just upgrade my stock trans rather than buy a complete unit. I only did that to save on the freight cost of bringing it in and then shipping my stock one back to them for the core. They hit you with a hefty core charge too because they really want your old trans back.
It is well worth the expense either way you go. Just upgrading your converter will feel almost like adding another fueling box........

RRAM · Post by **RRAM** » Fri Jan 04, 2008 7:34 pm

I been running the predator on my stock 05 tranny. on extreme you can feel its abusing it a bit, but these trannys are pretty tough. I am getting a shift kit put in on monday, and I am looking at purchaseing a TC this spring as well. I could have bought a rebuilt valve body and installed myself for 400. But I had already booked the truck in so will keep the appointment. Will report back on how it feels Monday evening.

akdiesel · Post by **akdiesel** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:25 pm

Ok here's what I plan on ordering for now, I just can't afford a whole new trainy right now, my pockets are pretty empty. So I decided on getting a few things to try and make it work. I plan on getting ATS front and year differential covers, ATS Transmission pan,ATS torque converter, and possibly a ATS commander lock up Controller. I also plan on getting a Fass fuel pump 95, but I'm not sure which one to get. I was told that the 150 was for high horse power and if you use this one and your not pushing high horse power it can still damage the pump. I'm not sure if I have enough horse power for the 150 pump. I'll be running Afe stage 2 air box, CFM intake, Predator programmer, and MBRP Cat back dual exhaust. What pump would you guys recommend ? I also plan on next year getting a new valve body job and getting new input , and output shafts. Do you think this is a good start or should I just bag it and save for a new trainy ? As of right now for my diff covers, trainy pan, lockup, fuel pump I'm at about $1900.00, and a pretty pist off wife

. She'll get over it. So what do you think ?

ropnjessi · Post by **ropnjessi** » Wed Jan 09, 2008 2:58 pm

Dude I would hold off on the cosmetics and do the mechanical upgrrades you can afford......those covers are expensive

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