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Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:31 am
by claude9039u
Couple of questions. My predator was stolen last night in my car. So I am sure someday someone is going to be looking to program there car and cant because my stock program is still in the tuner. So can I tell diablo it’s been stolen and who do I contact? If someone sends it to them to have it reprogrammed will Diablo be able to see it was stolen and send it back to me. Now as for my car it’s programmed so I am good but I know I will have to get a new predator soon so what do I do? I am guessing go to the dealer and have them program my car to stock then program with new predator? Any help would be great guys.
RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 11:55 am
by bob34787
ultimate answer will be you will need proof that it was stolen and diablo can help you with the force relearn when you get your new one
Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 12:46 pm
by claude9039u
bob34787 wrote:ultimate answer will be you will need proof that it was stolen and diablo can help you with the force relearn when you get your new one
Well I understand what you are saying but why would I have to prove that it was stolen. Its mine it registered with Dialbo so they know I have one. So if I tell them it was stolen and I need to buy a new one why would I have to prove the old one was was stolen? A
RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:40 pm
by bob34787
you are correct i am sorry. you would have to have car reflashed by dealer than any predator can retune. I must not have read your entire post. I would assume if you wanted to skip the dealer reflash than you would have to show proof of it being stolen so diablo can give you an unlock code, I know the dealer will charge and They probally will not be happy that you have the tune installed.
RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:45 pm
by bob34787
actually after thinking about it your only option is to get it reflashed by dealer and buy the new predator as you no longer have your original backup.
RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 8:38 pm
by johan
Bob is right, another predator will see that you have a non stock program in there and will not allow you to tune it. A dealer reflash is necessary.
RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 4:17 am
by Quick
Yikes. Isn't there some solution you guys can come up with for just this sort of situation? A CROM that only works once with an unlock code from Diablo. It's only function is to flash a PCM to stock and it only works once? Stolen Predators, smashed Predators, etc. What if your Predator just quits working? If it's a copyright thing, how about a repository where users could register their predator, car(vin), and upload their stock tune after the first use? The user would just be storing their flash with you and if needed you could wrap it in a one shot CROM and send it back.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 8:28 pm
by rodneyiii
johan wrote:Bob is right, another predator will see that you have a non stock program in there and will not allow you to tune it. A dealer reflash is necessary.
If claude has his original tune saved to his home computer, can he reload that original into the replacement Predator and have you guys unlock it so the OEM tune can be dumped back into his car?
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:35 pm
by mikel
Nope, the only option is a reflash and a new Predator...
Thanks
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 12:59 pm
by fordomatic69
mikel wrote:Nope, the only option is a reflash and a new Predator...
Thanks
WOW... IMO... that is a design flaw of the highest order. In the event that your prescious Predator breaks or stops working, there is no way to restore the stock tune? This should be priority one to get rectified or Diablosport might someday find itself on the receiving end of a pretty big lawsuit (even if they win, it could be an expensive lesson for them).
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:17 pm
by mikel
I swear, next time I hear the word lawsuit on this forum I quit.
Seriously.
When are people going to start taking some responsibility for their actions?
You choose to modify your PCM, you take any risks associated with that. Period.
"Im gonna sue Diablo because they let me hack into my PCM and do something I was never supposed to do in the first place, then I lost my tool to undo what I did, and its their fault?!?!?!"
OMG, you really need to step back and rethink your statement....
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:33 pm
by fordomatic69
I wasn't threatening to sue... I was just stating the obvious.... lawsuits in the US are as American as Apple Pie these days. I live in Canada, where we cannot really sue anyone for anything and when and if we are allowed to sue, we get peanuts for the settlement. I see the US news all the time and watch how little old ladies get millions for not "taking some responsibility for their actions" and spilling hot coffee on their laps. I did not mean to say that I was using this as a threat, but there are those out there that will abuse the system (sue the shoe manufacturer because they cannot run faster than they did before).
The ability to return to stock in the event that YOUR equipment breaks or fails, due to no fault of the user, should have been included in the design of the predator, even if it required "proof of purchase" to return your car to stock settings, I think we'd all be in agreement with that.
RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 1:56 pm
by Black05Hemi
It's Diablo's fault your tuner got stolen...lol
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:02 pm
by fordomatic69
Black05Hemi wrote:It's Diablo's fault your tuner got stolen...lol
Ha ha ha... you're funny... NOT!!!
I do think however there should be a way of restoring your stock settings from your PC backup if you
BUY a new predator!!! It's reasonable! Diablo would make $$ from the sale of the new programmer and they would have an extremely happy customer that would be relieved that his vehicle warantee would not be voided, adding to the stress of his stolen items.
Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Re: RE: Stolen Predator
Posted: Mon Mar 10, 2008 2:38 pm
by johnc
fordomatic69 wrote:I do think however there should be a way of restoring your stock settings from your PC backup if you BUY a new predator!!!
There is. Like Mike said, a dealer reflash and then apply the new Predator.